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Old 09-01-2018, 02:05 PM
 
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Paul was of the 7000 man remnant of Israel, NOT JUDAH, and he tells us this in many ways....

Romans 11 about the destruction of the ten tribes
The Remnant of Israel ~ REMNANT OF ISRAEL, NOT JUDAH
1I ask then, did God reject His people? Certainly not! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2God did not reject His people, whom He foreknew. Do you not know what the Scripture says about Elijah, how he appealed to God against Israel/NOT JUDAH:…{How much clearer does somebody want it?} God told Elijah that he reserved 7000 Israelis and Paul is telling us that he is one of them.


Paul is speaking about the 7000 man remnant of Israel, NOT JUDAH, He has gone through all their history that is in fact, his history as a member of Israel, not Judah...


Paul is speaking of the lost ten tribes of Israel saying, ''Did God reject all of the ten tribes?''


Then Paul flat out tells us, '' NO, GOD DIDN'T REJECT ALL THE PEOPLE FROM THE HOUSE OF Israel, see I am one myself.''

This is why Christians get so confused thinking that they are reading about Jews when in fact, they are reading about how the ten lost tribes were destroyed for disbelief in the religion of God, how those ten tribes took on Pagan holy days and died for it, but any Gentile can come under the promise to the ten lost tribes when they stop keeping pagan ways, and when they accept the worship system of God.....

In the beginning Christians repented of their paganism and they converted to the religion of Christ to become one with Jews, but now, that is no longer true, Christians no longer seek the adoption, Christians no longer strive to be grafted through the promise of Ephraim because they don't want to give up their Babylonian Holy days.
Whoever isolates himself seeks his own desire; he breaks out against all sound judgment. A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. When wickedness comes, contempt comes also, and with dishonor comes disgrace. The words of a man's mouth are deep waters; the fountain of wisdom is a bubbling brook. It is not good to be partial to the wicked or to deprive the righteous of justice. ..."


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Old 09-01-2018, 02:14 PM
 
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The place of decision.
Excellent subject 2nd pillar.

Hadassah in hebrew equals 134000. If I recall correctly.
Then there is a congregation to witness the 144000.

Ten thousand sheilds was it.
Ah how Levi gives way to feed the poor.

Blessings Always
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Old 09-01-2018, 02:44 PM
 
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Har Magedon (Revelation 16:16) is when the nations of the world will be gathered against Jerusalem (Zechariah 14:1-3), and they will be crushed all together at the same time (Daniel 2:35). It will occur at Meggido, which is located between Jerusalem and Damascus, and is because of what the nations have done to Israel (Joel 3:1-2) and happens after "Judah" and "Jerusalem" have been restored, which was finished in 1967. It will include 1/3 of mankind being killed by fire, smoke, and sulfur (Revelation 9:18), and the nations will still not repent (Revelation 9:21). Those who come against Jerusalem will die the same death that those who died in Hiroshima (Zechariah 14:12). Can anyone give the high holy day when this is most likely to occur?
It will never occur.

Meggido may have been of some strategic value in ancient times, but in the modern world it is of no value or importance.

The Russian style of war-fighting is objective-oriented, and Meggido would never be an objective.

Since the US abandoned Western-style war-fighting in favor of the Russian style in 1978 and implemented it by 1986, it would never be a US objective, either.

The Israelis also use Russian-style war-fighting, since a large number of their officers were officers in the Soviet Red Army and immigrated (or fled) to Israel after WW II and wrote all of the tactics and doctrines for the Israeli military.

NATO --excepting the US -- and the Arab States, as well as nearly all States use Western-style war-fighting. It's unknown what doctrines China uses. China was still using Western-style when it engaged Vietnam, but it suffered humiliating defeats, so I would venture to guess China has re-examined and re-evaluated its tactical doctrines.

An army using Western-style would never go anywhere near Meggido.

It would stay along the coast, where it could be screened by naval vessels.

The most recent example would be Iran's counter-offensive, which drove the Iraqis out of Khuzestan.

Iran's advancing army was screened by three destroyers. Their 127 mm guns are effective artillery, and the SPS-29C air search radar has a theoretical range of ~135 miles. The RIM-66 ship-to-air missiles would have been modestly effective at destroying Iraqi aircraft attempting to provide close air support for retreating Iraqi units.

Then the US destroyed all three destroyers, and the Iranians halted their advance into Iraqi territory.

If you're hoping to see a battle in modern times at Meggido, that's just not gonna happen.
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Old 09-01-2018, 05:56 PM
 
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It will never occur.

Meggido may have been of some strategic value in ancient times, but in the modern world it is of no value or importance.

The Russian style of war-fighting is objective-oriented, and Meggido would never be an objective.

Since the US abandoned Western-style war-fighting in favor of the Russian style in 1978 and implemented it by 1986, it would never be a US objective, either.

The Israelis also use Russian-style war-fighting, since a large number of their officers were officers in the Soviet Red Army and immigrated (or fled) to Israel after WW II and wrote all of the tactics and doctrines for the Israeli military.

NATO --excepting the US -- and the Arab States, as well as nearly all States use Western-style war-fighting. It's unknown what doctrines China uses. China was still using Western-style when it engaged Vietnam, but it suffered humiliating defeats, so I would venture to guess China has re-examined and re-evaluated its tactical doctrines.

An army using Western-style would never go anywhere near Meggido.

It would stay along the coast, where it could be screened by naval vessels.

The most recent example would be Iran's counter-offensive, which drove the Iraqis out of Khuzestan.

Iran's advancing army was screened by three destroyers. Their 127 mm guns are effective artillery, and the SPS-29C air search radar has a theoretical range of ~135 miles. The RIM-66 ship-to-air missiles would have been modestly effective at destroying Iraqi aircraft attempting to provide close air support for retreating Iraqi units.

Then the US destroyed all three destroyers, and the Iranians halted their advance into Iraqi territory.

If you're hoping to see a battle in modern times at Meggido, that's just not gonna happen.

The shoe string army of Israel defeated all the surrounding nations and their Russian advisors, with their Russian weapons in 6 days in 1967. They did it again in 1973. Apparently the Russians didn't learn.


The next thrust will probably be made by Arab jihadist, coming in under cover of a super EMP bomb produced in Russia, and sold to the Iranians who would be using past Obama provided money for the purchase. Their goal would be to capture Jerusalem, and die in the effort (Zechariah 14:12), and be provided with 72 virgins in heaven. The goal of the Europeans backing the jihadist is that they are simply crazier than a mad hatter, and apparently can't see the nose on their faces.
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Old 09-01-2018, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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Are you drunk?

O Man, it's like I judged myself with this fowl ball, and what a fowl bird it was, sorry.

''As Hannibal walks out the door to get a six pack.'' Yeah but with me it is spirits, spiritual food, yeah..
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Old 09-01-2018, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Assumedly your communistic leanings come from an unknown writer, writing about your leader, the "worthless shepherd" (Zechariah 11:17), Peter. Maybe you should follow Peter's supposedly urging others to sell all they own and give to the church. On the other hand, Yeshua's instructions were if you wanted to become perfect, you were to sell all you own and give to the poor. Your socialistic attitude of the government taking from the widow and orphan to give to your non working friends, kind of breaks the Commandments of not to steal or covet our neighbor's goods.

As for you winning with the false gospel of the cross, you will die regardless of your beliefs (Jeremiah 31:30), and as the cross is the image of the mark of the beast with two horns like a lamb, your walk won't be enviable. And no, you have had no healing, nor can you heal, even your friend and brother McCain. No friend of McCain had the righteousness to pray for his health and heal him (James 5:16), even if McCain had confessed his sins, much less heal themselves. Go ahead and howl at the moon, it won't help your case.


The house built on sand, is the one built on the words of men, and not the testimony of Yeshua (Matthew 7:24-27). Your foundation is the testimony of the "worthless shepherd" Peter, and the false prophet Paul. The rains, floods, and wind are to continue until your house falls. The poor pope, heir of Peter, even has to hold on by his finger tips. The position of pope will "fall", but only the hour and day is in question (Isaiah 22:25).
My leader is Jesus and He certainly is useless to you. The cross is salvation to those who believe, and salvation is healing. The Greek word can mean both salvation and healing.

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One of the evidences of this truth is the word that is commonly translated as “salvation” in the New Testament. The same Greek word–sozo–is used interchangeably for salvation, healing, and deliverance.

In Matthew 1:21, the angel Gabriel speaks this prophetic word to Mary about the Son she is to carry into the world: “And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save [sozo] His people from their sins.”

Here is an example of sozo being used for physical healing: “Then Jesus said to him, ‘Go your way; your faith has made you well [sozo].’ And immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus on the road” (Mark 10:52).

In Luke 8:36 sozo is used to describe a man who was delivered from demons: “They also who had seen it told them by what means he who had been demon-possessed was healed [sozo].”

There are many other examples of the word sozo in the New Testament. (Click here for a complete list). But the point is that the cross has provided for a total salvation. God never intended salvation without deliverance. And He never wanted the benefit of physical healing to be removed from the salvation experience.
I don't care about the pope's views and haven't the foggiest what they are. But every believer in the Bible appears false to you, so it is pretty obvious that YOU are the false one.

Restorative healing/salvation is what Jesus brought to us. And to you that is totally false. The judgement Jesus promised is judgment on hateful/spiteful/vengeful people like you who try to destroy hope in the almighty. Your eye sees evil all around you because of what lies in your heart.

Every time I think I've run into the ugliest soul on CD, a new one pops up. You've just made the throne, and I'm sure you're proud of yourself.

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It is time to recapture sozo! On the same cross Jesus bore our sins and our sicknesses (see Isaiah 53:4-5 and Matthew 8:16-17). He paid the penalty for sozo–salvation, healing, and deliverance. Let’s embrace the gospel that Jesus preached, the gospel of the kingdom. Let’s contend for the full expression of this gospel to be released in the earth!
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Old 09-01-2018, 11:07 PM
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It will never occur.

Meggido may have been of some strategic value in ancient times, but in the modern world it is of no value or importance.

The Russian style of war-fighting is objective-oriented, and Meggido would never be an objective.

Since the US abandoned Western-style war-fighting in favor of the Russian style in 1978 and implemented it by 1986, it would never be a US objective, either.

The Israelis also use Russian-style war-fighting, since a large number of their officers were officers in the Soviet Red Army and immigrated (or fled) to Israel after WW II and wrote all of the tactics and doctrines for the Israeli military.

NATO --excepting the US -- and the Arab States, as well as nearly all States use Western-style war-fighting. It's unknown what doctrines China uses. China was still using Western-style when it engaged Vietnam, but it suffered humiliating defeats, so I would venture to guess China has re-examined and re-evaluated its tactical doctrines.

An army using Western-style would never go anywhere near Meggido.

It would stay along the coast, where it could be screened by naval vessels.

The most recent example would be Iran's counter-offensive, which drove the Iraqis out of Khuzestan.

Iran's advancing army was screened by three destroyers. Their 127 mm guns are effective artillery, and the SPS-29C air search radar has a theoretical range of ~135 miles. The RIM-66 ship-to-air missiles would have been modestly effective at destroying Iraqi aircraft attempting to provide close air support for retreating Iraqi units.

Then the US destroyed all three destroyers, and the Iranians halted their advance into Iraqi territory.

If you're hoping to see a battle in modern times at Meggido, that's just not gonna happen.
and you never will guess what God might but there that someone might want or want into !
you do not know God or his plans.
what is coming has never been and so you can't deduce it from anything historical except maybe taking the land the first time. And he kept the giants running away then to .. and he will again!!! Really it is not wise to underestimate Him. Humanity does it often including me. it is still not wise to do.
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Old 09-02-2018, 04:35 AM
 
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My leader is Jesus and He certainly is useless to you. The cross is salvation to those who believe, and salvation is healing. The Greek word can mean both salvation and healing.


I don't care about the pope's views and haven't the foggiest what they are. But every believer in the Bible appears false to you, so it is pretty obvious that YOU are the false one.

Restorative healing/salvation is what Jesus brought to us. And to you that is totally false. The judgement Jesus promised is judgment on hateful/spiteful/vengeful people like you who try to destroy hope in the almighty. Your eye sees evil all around you because of what lies in your heart.

Every time I think I've run into the ugliest soul on CD, a new one pops up. You've just made the throne, and I'm sure you're proud of yourself.

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Well, as you have not been healed, and will die (Jeremiah 31:30), I am not sure how well Paul's false gospel of the "cross" has worked out for you. Unfortunately, the "Christian" U.S. voters turned to Obamacare for their salvation and well being, but that kind of bombed.


As far as "false", it is the nations/Gentiles who will make the confession that "our fathers have inherited nothing but falsehood" (Jeremiah 16:19), this following the "day of distress". That should give you an indication of the relevance of your views.
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Old 09-02-2018, 06:30 AM
 
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Well, as you have not been healed, and will die (Jeremiah 31:30), I am not sure how well Paul's false gospel of the "cross" has worked out for you. Unfortunately, the "Christian" U.S. voters turned to Obamacare for their salvation and well being, but that kind of bombed.


As far as "false", it is the nations/Gentiles who will make the confession that "our fathers have inherited nothing but falsehood" (Jeremiah 16:19), this following the "day of distress". That should give you an indication of the relevance of your views.
What makes Paul false, or Peter, or any other of the witnesses to Christ.? Are their views perfect? Of course not. They explained their experiences to the best of their ability.

You reject the Cross for the same reason you want a war to end wars. YOU have been duped by 1700 years of crappy theology. Jesus taught that we win by losing.

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God does not receive a sacrifice, but becomes it. Instead of us reaching up to God, God reached down to us. It is not we who act to make things right, but God who acts. It is God in Christ who both provides and is the sacrifice. God in Christ becomes the sacrifice through the cross.
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This reversal of the sacrifice is in keeping with the many reversals that Jesus taught—the greatest is the servant, blessed are the least, die to live, and so on.
Derek Flood, Healing the Gospel; A Radical Vision for Grace, Justice, and the Cross, Chapter Understanding Sacrifice As Healing Restoration

Your heart is bloodthirsty and therefore you've made your god in your own image.

Obamacare:
I spent 30 years in the insurance industry as an underwriter, rate maker, and compliance officer. I also served on the board of directors for the Association of Insurance Compliance Professionals. Toward the end of my career various companies that I worked for and was aware of were breaking state laws on a regular basis. I decided to end my career and my $100,000 a year job by blowing the whistle on the last company I worked for. The next year I made $10.50 per hour in a medical records job.

You foolishly assume Obamacare couldn't work. And it couldn't because the party of contrariness demanded insurance companies, the cheats, be the ones doling it out. Had we gone to a single payer system that removes the profit (cheat) motive, everyone in the nation would have been better served.

I have a Jewish daughter-in-law. You make a poor Jew and your posts show nothing but contempt for Jesus. In addition you are a complete nincompoop with regard to insurance that continues to cheat Americans. I put my morality before my pocketbook. I perceive your morality IS your pocketbook.
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Old 09-02-2018, 08:53 AM
 
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What makes Paul false, or Peter, or any other of the witnesses to Christ.? Are their views perfect? Of course not. They explained their experiences to the best of their ability.

You reject the Cross for the same reason you want a war to end wars. YOU have been duped by 1700 years of crappy theology. Jesus taught that we win by losing.

Derek Flood, Healing the Gospel; A Radical Vision for Grace, Justice, and the Cross, Chapter Understanding Sacrifice As Healing Restoration

Your heart is bloodthirsty and therefore you've made your god in your own image.

Obamacare:
I spent 30 years in the insurance industry as an underwriter, rate maker, and compliance officer. I also served on the board of directors for the Association of Insurance Compliance Professionals. Toward the end of my career various companies that I worked for and was aware of were breaking state laws on a regular basis. I decided to end my career and my $100,000 a year job by blowing the whistle on the last company I worked for. The next year I made $10.50 per hour in a medical records job.

You foolishly assume Obamacare couldn't work. And it couldn't because the party of contrariness demanded insurance companies, the cheats, be the ones doling it out. Had we gone to a single payer system that removes the profit (cheat) motive, everyone in the nation would have been better served.

I have a Jewish daughter-in-law. You make a poor Jew and your posts show nothing but contempt for Jesus. In addition you are a complete nincompoop with regard to insurance that continues to cheat Americans. I put my morality before my pocketbook. I perceive your morality IS your pocketbook.

Having insurance of any kind is an affront to the idea that God is your healer. Well as the "many" (Matthew 7:13) are part of the daughter of Babylon (Revelation 18:4), of course they receive of her plagues, just as Israel received the plagues of Egypt when they broke God's laws. The coming era will provide "leaves of the tree".. "for healing of the nations" (Revelation 22:2), and one ruler, "The Word of God" (Revelation 19:13), who will rule the nations "with a rod of iron" (Revelation 19:15). Babylon the great and her daughters will be gone (Revelation 18:21). That would include the Roman church and her daughters. There will be no insurance agents, or single payer systems, although in the mean time, you could go to Britain, and wait in line for her single payer services.
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