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Old 09-05-2018, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Mobile, Al.
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11Let the unrighteous continue to be unrighteous, and the vile continue to be vile; let the righteous continue to practice righteousness, and the holy continue to be holy.

In other words you HAVE no answer and my point about it being your personal ego trip stands.
vain babbling, ...

now if you don't have anything constructive, good day to u

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Old 09-05-2018, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Mobile, Al.
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But in your hearts sanctify Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give a defense to everyone who asks you the reason for the hope you possess. But respond with gentleness and respect,
Matthew 10:14 "And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

Matthew 10:15 "Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
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Old 09-05-2018, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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But in your hearts sanctify Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give a defense to everyone who asks you the reason for the hope you possess. But respond with gentleness and respect,
SIR, I SAID GOOD DAY, GOOD DAY SIR, GOOD DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ROFL


Did you get that Nate?


GOOD DAY SIR, I SAID,'' GOOD DAY.''


LoL, you just can't make this stuff up, Hannibal and Nate, Let's go Nate, Dude done had to go and say Good Day.
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Old 09-05-2018, 01:37 PM
 
Location: USA
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What you rely on are the perceptions and opinions of others, the only difference between you and me is you see them as inerrant or infallible, whereas, I do not. As for a resurrection, I do not see death as the end all to life as energy transforms, but what that life will be like is merely speculation for the present time. We can dream and have fantasies about streets of gold, nothing wrong with that - but to be realistic, neither of us know. And I don't have a problem with that, even if it were a sleep without dreams. I don't fear my own mortality, nor the thought of death.

The problem is in that of condemning other people who do not believe as you do. And, as I have stated at other times, if one of your beliefs fall the rest will come crumbling down around you like domino's. So, it stands to reason that you will have to believe and support each and everyone of them without admitting you have erred, and we know that won't happen as you have no humility. And the only thing I hear from you is a recording, which I have heard time and time, again.
That is so true. I well remember my days of defending my beliefs when I was a Christian and that dreadful (at the time) realization that my beliefs were in danger of all being knocked down one after another if even one of them wasn't true. The funny thing is that "what I feared came upon me". And then I found out that what got knocked down was the walls of a prison that I didn't even realize I was in.
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Old 09-05-2018, 01:39 PM
 
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God make me a bird so I can fly far, far away, God make me a bird so I can fly far, far away.
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Old 09-05-2018, 01:39 PM
 
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You also claim to base your opinions (and that's all that they are - opinions) on reason and knowledge. Yet you apparently believe in a resurrection of some sort.

''Death comes to everyone, it will be knocking at your door in the near future; and surely you will die. So, yes, it is a "part of this life," whether you like it or not is irrelevant, you will close your eyes without a thought or a dream, as the time for death has not been eradicated!''

Post #20 - Most Bible translations (=opinions of Scripture) be in error?

How is resurrection based on human reasoning and knowledge to which you appeal? It seems to me that you simply believe whatever you choose to believe.
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What you rely on are the perceptions and opinions of others, the only difference between you and me is you see them as inerrant or infallible, whereas, I do not. As for a resurrection, I do not see death as the end all to life as energy transforms, but what that life will be like is merely speculation for the present time. We can dream and have fantasies about streets of gold, nothing wrong with that - but to be realistic, neither of us know. And I don't have a problem with that, even if it were a sleep without dreams. I don't fear my own mortality, nor the thought of death.

The problem is in that of condemning other people who do not believe as you do. And, as I have stated at other times, if one of your beliefs fall the rest will come crumbling down around you like domino's. So, it stands to reason that you will have to believe and support each and everyone of them without admitting you have erred, and we know that won't happen as you have no humility. And the only thing I hear from you is a recording, which I have heard time and time, again.
Instead of your judgmental preaching at me, stick to the issue at hand and simply answer the question. How does human reasoning which you claim to live by justify thinking that just because energy can transform from one form to another, that it somehow means that life continues after death. How is that belief justified by human reasoning which again, is what you claim to live by?
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Old 09-05-2018, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Mobile, Al.
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Stop, what’s the topic here?

Let’s stay on topic,

Now will someone answer my Question,

John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

Is this ONE person in the same or two separate person not the Same?
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Old 09-05-2018, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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Matthew 10:14 "And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

Matthew 10:15 "Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
Why should we think those scriptures are referring to you? You insert yourself into them, those scriptures were written to Gentile converts, your brand of Christianity wasn't even invented when that was written.
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Old 09-05-2018, 01:50 PM
 
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I used to debate these issues in times past, but have given that up for the most part. And have settled for that of "fortune" cookies or a commentary. I have no intentions of getting up off the bench for every new kid on the block. My only desire is for people to open-up their hearts and minds to the possibility that we have erred in our attempts to understand everything there is, including that of a creator (God) and we have merely made the Spirit of life conform to our particular image. There are things that go well beyond what we can imagine or perceive. But I do believe that love will never fail, if we put that first and foremost in our lives. Although, there are many who have expectations that they must receive (a reward), if they are to give of themselves. And those that don't will be eternally damned, which is just asinine. Religion doesn't build unity, it causes separation and division with this "us" and "them" mentality. There is no one less or greater than anyone else. But when you deal with extreme fundamentalists, they believe they are the cats meow, and they will never listen to reason - as they have been indoctrinated to believe they are right and everyone else is wrong.
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#1. you don't have to get off the bench for any new kid on the block. just stay there and you will eventually succumb to it. change is always painful, but avoidable.

#2. that's the second problem. people have open their hearts too much. it just need renewing. Psalms 51:10 "Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.

Psalms 51:11 "Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.

Psalms 51:12 "Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.

Psalms 51:13 "Then will I teach transgressors thy ways; and sinners shall be converted unto thee.


PICYJAG
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I am not interested in your book, chapter and verse mentality, as I do not see the Scriptures as being inerrant or infallible.
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what you're interested in I'm not concern about .... .

so I take it that you cannot find any scripture to support your beliefs?.

I thought so, Good day 2 you.
Do you ever hear yourself, no one talks that way.
Please, try to join the rest of the human race.
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Old 09-05-2018, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Mobile, Al.
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Do you ever hear yourself, no one talks that way.
Please, try to join the rest of the human race.
please stay on topic

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