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Old 09-09-2018, 09:29 AM
 
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From the Epistle of Barnabas - The Epistle of Barnabas (translation Roberts-Donaldson)



CHAPTER VIII.--THE RED HEIFER A TYPE OF CHRIST.
Now what do you suppose this to be a type of, that a command was given to Israel, that men of the greatest wickedness should offer a heifer, and slay and burn it, and, that then boys should take the ashes, and put these into vessels, and bind round a stick purple wool along with hyssop, and that thus the boys should sprinkle the people, one by one, in order that they might be purified from their sins? Consider how He speaks to you with simplicity. The calf is Jesus: the sinful men offering it are those who led Him to the slaughter. But now the men are no longer guilty, are no longer regarded as sinners. And the boys that sprinkle are those that have proclaimed to us the remission of sins and purification of heart. To these He gave authority to preach the Gospel, being twelve in number, corresponding to the twelve tribes of Israel. But why are there three boys that sprinkle? To correspond to Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, because these were great with God. And why was the wool [placed] upon the wood? Because by wood Jesus holds His kingdom, so that [through the cross] those believing on Him shall live for ever. But why was hyssop joined with the wool? Because in His kingdom the days will be evil and polluted in which we shall be saved, [and] because he who suffers in body is cured through the cleansing efficacy of hyssop. And on this account the things which stand thus are clear to us, but obscure to them because they did not hear the voice of the Lord.
You forgot about Paul, the thirteenth Apostle...
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Old 09-09-2018, 09:35 AM
 
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Hanni, there is no Anti-Christ...It is the Mashiach that is to build the Temple not the Jews on their own and , thanks to the book of Revelation, Christians will see the true Mashiach as the Anti-Christ because he fulfills the Jewish prophecies of the Mashiach and not the Christian prophecies...
Everything spoken of Anti-Christ is a son of lawlessness within each person, Christians are waiting on a man when they should be looking in the mirror.
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Old 09-09-2018, 09:56 AM
 
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You people need a hobby.
not more than you do ! they are trying to unravel an ancient mystery that left your priests of scientism to give up.. and you to do nothing more than mock true scientific and historical investigation..
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Old 09-09-2018, 10:00 AM
 
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Everything spoken of Anti-Christ is a son of lawlessness within each person, Christians are waiting on a man when they should be looking in the mirror.
Anti-Mashiach is against the Mashiach so when the Jewish Mashiach finally arrives and performs all that he is to perform, according to Judaism, who is it that you think will rebel against him?...It is right there in the book of Revelation, HF, the Christians will see him as the Anti-Christ as they were taught because he will not be performing the tasks that they were taught he should perform, but the tasks that the Tanakh says that he will perform, which is to bring world peace, convince everyone of the One True G-d, rebuild the Temple, rule the world from Jerusalem, gee, doesn’t this sound like what Revelation says that the so-called Anti-Christ is to do?...You know, end all wars, bring in a one-world religion, make peace and create a one world government?...Of course when G-d is ruling the world through the Mashiach [one-world government run by the Mashiach]there will be peace and everyone will know who the true G-d is [one-world religion] and since we are all one, there will be peace and no need for war, everyone will be sharing the planets resources...It seems as if the book of Revelation was written to deceive people, to get them to rebel against the Jewish Mashiach, To Rebel against G-d...Because, if the attributes and performances of the Anti-Christ mirror those of the Jewish Mashiach, then there is something seriously amiss in the book of Revelation...
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Old 09-09-2018, 10:00 AM
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not more than you do ! they are trying to unravel an ancient mystery that left your priests of scientism to give up.. and you to do nothing more than mock true scientific and historical investigation..

Uh-huh.
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Old 09-09-2018, 10:07 AM
 
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Anti-Mashiach is against the Mashiach so when the Jewish Mashiach finally arrives and performs all that he is to perform, according to Judaism, who is it that you think will rebel against him?...It is right there in the book of Revelation, HF, the Christians will see him as the Anti-Christ as they were taught because he will not be performing the tasks that they were taught he should perform, but the tasks that the Tanakh says that he will perform, which is to bring world peace, convince everyone of the One True G-d, rebuild the Temple, rule the world from Jerusalem, gee, doesn’t this sound like what Revelation says that the so-called Anti-Christ is to do?...You know, end all wars, bring in a one-world religion, make peace and create a one world government?...Of course when G-d is ruling the world through the Mashiach [one-world government run by the Mashiach]there will be peace and everyone will know who the true G-d is [one-world religion] and since we are all one, there will be peace and no need for war, everyone will be sharing the planets resources...It seems as if the book of Revelation was written to deceive people, to get them to rebel against the Jewish Mashiach, To Rebel against G-d...Because, if the attributes and performances of the Anti-Christ mirror those of the Jewish Mashiach, then there is something seriously amiss in the book of Revelation...
The first thing Revelation says is the fact that everything in the book had to shortly come to pass, and the very last thing in Revelation says that everything written in the book must shortly come to pass.


Revelation was written for ever Gentile Christian in every single generation, just because Christians think it is some future 2000 years in the making doesn't take from the fact that it was written for every Generation and it makes it real clear that everything written in the book must shortly come to pass for everyone walking by the prophesies written in the book.


I realize that Christians look for a lawless Messiah, but you are correct when you show Messiah bringing world peace, Christians just think it is of the future when it is not, and it tells us that it is not speaking of the future.
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Old 09-09-2018, 10:09 AM
 
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The first thing Revelation says is the fact that everything in the book had to shortly come to pass, and the very last thing in Revelation says that everything written in the book must shortly come to pass.


Revelation was written for ever Gentile Christian in every single generation, just because Christians think it is some future 2000 years in the making doesn't take from the fact that it was written for every Generation and it makes it real clear that everything written in the book must shortly come to pass for everyone walking by the prophesies written in the book.


I realize that Christians look for a lawless Messiah, but you are correct when you show Messiah bringing world peace, Christians just think it is of the future when it is not, and it tells us that it is not speaking of the future.
You didn’t pay attention to what I posted, did you, HF?...
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Old 09-09-2018, 10:10 AM
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I guess the ultimate question is whether Jesus is set to return for the Church aka his bride before the end of the year, with all the unprecedented wickedness around the world as of late I would not b angry if God decided this year was it.
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Old 09-09-2018, 10:13 AM
 
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I guess the ultimate question is whether Jesus is set to return for the Church aka his bride before the end of the year, with all the unprecedented wickedness around the world as of late I would not b angry if God decided this year was it.
Where does it prophecy that the Mashiach will “return”?...
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Old 09-09-2018, 10:16 AM
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Where does it prophecy that the Mashiach will “return”?...
I know Jesus the Christian messiah WILL return, this I know, the question is will he return for his bride this year or not. I am sure that the fundamentalist Christians wouldn’t have it any other way.
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