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Old 09-09-2018, 10:10 AM
 
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Where does it say this about the messiah?...
I'm not talking about the messiah. That's a term I don't relate to at all anymore. The God who is love is my "salvation" and I believe is always with each of us.
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Old 09-09-2018, 10:12 AM
 
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E v e r y w h e r e.


Messiah is here now, he just don't know who he is yet.


Of course Christians believe Messiah comes as a spirit inside a bride.
In every Jewish generation there is one person with the potential to be the Mashiach, however, if that one person does not perform all that he is to perform, then he is not the Mashiach...
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Old 09-09-2018, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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In every Jewish generation there is one person with the potential to be the Mashiach, however, if that one person does not perform all that he is to perform, then he is not the Mashiach...
I see all Jews as a Messiah.


The Messiah. When God comes to have a face to face with all of Judah alone, it is my understanding that all of them are suddenly indwelled with the spirit of Messiah because of so many prophesies showing this thing taking place in so many ways. If Messiah came today, I mean that the whole nation of Israel becomes as angels while the rest of the world is afraid.
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Old 09-09-2018, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Mobile, Al.
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Where does it say that he is coming “again”?...
Hebrews 9:28 "So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation".

PICYJAG.

PS, he came in appearance the first time as a babe, soon to come KING.
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Old 09-09-2018, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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Hebrews 9:28 "So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation".

PICYJAG.

PS, he came in appearance the first time as a babe, soon to come KING.
Of course you mean that he came as a servant making servants, and then the king is to come?


Babe?


He was the first born son into a new kingdom, but a grown, mature son, not a babe still on milk.
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Old 09-09-2018, 12:30 PM
 
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God already came for me. You too. God is so close there's no separation between God and us.
You amaze me sometimes, you say the truest things.
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Old 09-09-2018, 12:32 PM
 
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"Christ" has come, is coming, will come. It's something each individual must experience for themselves, available to each of us in every present moment.
How can you come to a place where you already are? LOL
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Old 09-09-2018, 12:34 PM
 
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Of course you mean that he came as a servant making servants, and then the king is to come?


Babe?


He was the first born son into a new kingdom, but a grown, mature son, not a babe still on milk.
First thanks for the response, but no he was BORN King, scripture, Matthew 2:1 "Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,

Matthew 2:2 "Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him".

was was King already, but lived a life of a servant for our example.

PICYJAG.
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Old 09-09-2018, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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First thanks for the response, but no he was BORN King, scripture, Matthew 2:1 "Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,

Matthew 2:2 "Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him".

was was King already, but lived a life of a servant for our example.

PICYJAG.
Why does this contradict your first post?


Earlier you said he came first as a Babe, and then he comes as a king.


And if Jesus lived a life as the servant of Israel, why don't Christians follow his example?


The first thing Jesus said to Israel was this,'' I have come to fulfill the prophesies of Isaiah 60, and Isaiah 61 to proclaim the days of God making all Gentiles servants to Israel.''


Jesus completely surrendered to Judah, just as all those disciples had submitted to the priests of Judaism. Paul was a Roman citizen and he had no reason to submit his life to the priests of Judaism to judge him and kill him if they found him guilty as Paul had found Stephen guilty. But Paul DID surrender to the priests of Judaism SHOWING them to be his authority when he was proving that he never taught Jews not to keep the laws of Moses, and had they found Paul guilty, and had Paul not proven his innocent of the lies and rumors, they would have surely killed him for being a false prophet deserving death.


All of them came running in complete surrender as servants, so why don't Christians follow or even have the same worship system as Christ?
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Old 09-09-2018, 12:42 PM
 
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E v e r y w h e r e.
Of course Christians believe Messiah comes as a spirit inside a bride.
I was made fun of
for saying that here...I don't talk in terms of a Messiah...The Christ is... well the Christ!, in us, all around...ya gotta practice a 6th sense, tho, like in stillness as you would in a forest at night, unmoving,
listening for a twig to snap...it takes an acute focus, like turning the dial of a radio station exactly.
Or the tuning into the tumblers, precisely, as a safe cracker.
If you have never tuned into the Unseen... then, you do think we are nuts.


PS 'Everywhere' in Greek and Aramaic means everywhere.
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