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Old 09-13-2018, 05:17 PM
 
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Jesus said nothing about the law going away, in fact, he said the opposite...

The LAW didn't go away Richard. It can't.
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Old 09-13-2018, 05:18 PM
 
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So, Paul made some crap up...So?...

Not sure what you're referring to.
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Old 09-13-2018, 05:18 PM
 
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The LAW didn't go away Richard. It can't.
Well, like Mike, Iím done with you...
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Old 09-13-2018, 05:19 PM
 
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Youíve been refuted and proven wrong...

You entitled to your opinion Richard. I'm not going to throw any accusations.
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Old 09-13-2018, 05:20 PM
 
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Well, like Mike, Iím done with you...

I hope you reconsider Richard but I appreciate the companionship you provided with me in our discussion this evening.
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Old 09-13-2018, 06:38 PM
 
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My believe on what a Jew is:


Rom_2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Paul was not a Jew dude, he joined Judah and became a Jew because he was one the 7000. What Christians don't see happening in Romans is the fact that Paul is explaining how he is one of the 7000 man remnant, and he is of the kingdom of Ephraim, not Judah. Paul is explaining the destruction of the kingdom of Ephraim, NOT JUDAH. Paul is showing how God ended their kingdom because of their disbelief and their separation from Judah and the Sabbaths and feasts of Jerusalem. Now Christians do the same thing the kingdom of Ephraim did, they became lawless and pagan in their division from Judah and Jerusalem.


Gentiles are ONLY grafted through the ten lost tribes of Ephraim which have nothing to do with Judah, but Christians who don't know there is a difference in Israel in Judah, they think everything is about Judah when the whole book of Romans is explaining the promise to the lost ten tribes, Paul's people. Hosea is a book written of the destruction of the kingdom of Ephraim, Paul's people, not Judah. Paul is one of the 7000 remnant from the kingdom of Ephraim.


Paul says,'' EVEN US, not of the Jew only, but even us of the Gentiles of the lost ten tribes who JOIN JUDAH as co-heirs in the same religion.


EVEN US, not of the Jew only.


BRIEFLY, Jesus brought a covenant to Ephraim and Judah and that is what we claim, but Ephraim had been lost for 700 years when Jesus came, and Jesus didn't come to marry Jews, he is offering a betrothal to Gentiles to marry Judah and to be submissive to Judah because they sit in the seat of Moses till Messiah comes.


There are two kingdoms who are not the same people, who are in two separate religions where the kingdom of Israel became lawless and Pagan while the kingdom of Judah never left God, and Judah is that son who stayed home, while that prodigal nation was waiting to return 700 years till Jesus. Now we are waiting for Gentiles to accept the promised betrothal, BUT CHRISTIANS DO NOT ACCEPT EVEN THOUGH THEY SAY,'' JESUS, JESUS.''


A Jew DOES NOT NEED TO MARRY A JEW TO BECOME A JEW. A Jew does not need to marry a Jew to be grafted into the promise, that promise was not to Judah saying,'' Not my people/Gentiles, become the sons of the living God.


Paul quotes Hosea 2 promise to the lost ten tribes, in Hosea 2, those lost gentiles would be offered a betrothal to wed Judah as virgins wed a husband.


Elijah is not sent to Jews, John was not sent to Jews, John was a friend of the bridegroom, not a virgin. John went into the land of the ten tribes offering that promised betrothal in Hosea 2.


Jews didn't need a betrothal, Gentiles needed a betrothal to be redeemed into Israel, and those Gentiles became as co-heirs with Judah.......


That is no longer true, now Christians who are not Israel are claiming to be Israel, and this they claim from another religion separated from their supposed bridegroom in whom they think they have a betrothal.


They are no longer under that marriage contract, they separated 2000 years ago.
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Old 09-13-2018, 06:46 PM
 
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Paul was not a Jew dude, he joined Judah and became a Jew because he was one the 7000. What Christians don't see happening in Romans is the fact that Paul is explaining how he is one of the 7000 man remnant, and he is of the kingdom of Ephraim, not Judah. Paul is explaining the destruction of the kingdom of Ephraim, NOT JUDAH. Paul is showing how God ended their kingdom because of their disbelief and their separation from Judah and the Sabbaths and feasts of Jerusalem. Now Christians do the same thing the kingdom of Ephraim did, they became lawless and pagan in their division from Judah and Jerusalem.


Gentiles are ONLY grafted through the ten lost tribes of Ephraim which have nothing to do with Judah, but Christians who don't know there is a difference in Israel in Judah, they think everything is about Judah when the whole book of Romans is explaining the promise to the lost ten tribes, Paul's people.


Paul says,'' EVEN US, not of the Jew only, but even us of the Gentiles of the lost ten tribes who JOIN JUDAH as co-heirs in the same religion.


EVEN US, not of the Jew only.


BRIEFLY, Jesus brought a covenant to Ephraim and Judah and that is what we claim, but Ephraim had been lost for 700 years when Jesus came, and Jesus didn't come to marry Jews, he is offering a betrothal to Gentiles to marry Judah and to be submissive to Judah because they sit in the seat of Moses till Messiah comes.


There are two kingdoms who are not the same people, who are in two separate religions where the kingdom of Israel became lawless and Pagan while the kingdom of Judah never left God, and Judah is that son who stayed home, while that prodigal nation was waiting to return 700 years till Jesus.


A Jew DOES NOT NEED TO MARRY A JEW TO BECOME A JEW. A Jew does not need to marry a Jew to be grafted into the promise, that promise was not to Judah saying,'' Not my people/Gentiles, become the sons of the living God.


Paul quotes Hosea 2 promise to the lost ten tribes, in Hosea 2, those lost gentiles would be offered a betrothal to wed Judah as virgins wed a husband.


Elijah is not sent to Jews, John was not sent to Jews, John was a friend of the bridegroom, not a virgin. John went into the land of the ten tribes offering that promised betrothal in Hosea 2.


Jews didn't need a betrothal, Gentiles needed a betrothal to be redeemed into Israel, and those Gentiles became as co-heirs with Judah.......


That is no longer true, now Christians who are not Israel are claiming to be Israel, and this they claim from another religion separated from their supposed bridegroom in whom they think they have a betrothal.


They are no longer under that marriage contract, they separated 2000 years ago.

Paul is an Apostle of Jesus Christ sent to the Gentiles. As for his heritage:


Paul was:



Php 3:5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;



Benjamin was of the Southern Kingdom along with Judah.
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Old 09-13-2018, 06:52 PM
 
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Jesus came walking in Judaism offering the Gentile a betrothal to Judah when they converted to the same religion as Jesus.




HERE IS THE PROMISED BETROTHAL TO THE LOST GENTILES OF THE KINGDOM OF EPHRAIM.


PAUL IS EXPLAINING THIS BETROTHAL TO GENTILES, ''Not my people{LOST GENTILES OF EPHRAIM} Become the sons of the living God.'' This Betrothal is from Judah TO GENTILES, Jews don't have to marry a Jew to be a Jew, Jews don't marry a Jew to be grafted into Israel, they are Israel....




God's Mercy to Israel/NOT JUDAH ~ The ten lost tribes who were seeded into all the Gentile nations are offered a betrothal TO JUDAH, Gentiles marry a Jew, a Jew does not marry a Jew to become a Jew, Romans isn't speaking of Judah, he is speaking of Israel who became lost Gentiles when God destroyed their kingdom for becoming lawless and accepting pagan ways, Elijah is sent against them because of their lawless pagan ways. Then God ended them because of their lawless pagan ways that Christians keep today.
14Therefore, behold, I will allure her, and bring her into the wilderness, and speak comfortably unto her.
15And I will give her her vineyards from thence, and the valley of Achor for a door of hope: and she shall sing there, as in the days of her youth, and as in the day when she came up out of the land of Egypt.
16And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.
17For I will take away the names of Baalim out of her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name.
18And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven, and with the creeping things of the ground: and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the earth, and will make them to lie down safely.
19And I will betroth thee unto me for ever; yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment, and in lovingkindness, and in mercies.
20I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know the LORD.
21And it shall come to pass in that day, I will hear, saith the LORD, I will hear the heavens, and they shall hear the earth;
22And the earth shall hear the corn, and the wine, and the oil; and they shall hear Jezreel.
23And I will sow her unto me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God.
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Old 09-15-2018, 02:31 PM
 
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Benjamin was of the Southern Kingdom along with Judah.

Berei**** - Genesis - Chapter 49

27 Benjamin is a wolf, he will prey; in the morning he will devour plunder, and in the evening he will divide the spoil."
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Old 09-15-2018, 02:45 PM
 
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^non-sequitur, but hey who cares? Even the OP won't say why the subject matters any more than a fart in a whirlwind.
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