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Originally Posted by rstevens62
Does that person automatically go to hell (christianity-wise)?
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satan attacks every human, whether they obey Jehovah as Jesus showed we should do, (
Matt. 7:21), or not. he causes hardships on humans because Jehovah God and Jesus created us. would a God of love ,(
1John 4:8), send someone to a fiery place once he had died, just because he suffered hardship during his living days?, no! that would mean he wasn't a God of compassion, justice, and love. satan has some form of control over ALL humans, because we were born through sin. some might say, satan doesn't control me! sad!...a "Christian" for example might say, "I don't lie." yet, while with two friend, he sneaks and taps one on the back. the guy, turn to looks in his direction and asked did you tap me? he says playfully, it wasn't me and points to the other guy, he just lied! to lie is an abomination, satan knows this, he can by trickery control anyone if we don't have that protected armor of God ,(
Ephe. 6:11).
all this being said, we really need to do research on how the word "
HELL", became to mean a fiery places for the wicked dead, who will "
burn forever". Hell is real!... a “hellfire” it isn't! , there's a difference. A “hellfire” was said to be a place God ,Jehovah ,(
Exo. 6:3) created. faithful men of old knew what HELL really was. (
Psa.139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there). David, a faithful servant, prays to God. now if hell is a place where demons resides, God touches nothing unclean. hell would be considered by God unclean, why would God be there? Again why would he let a faithful servant go there? David meant if he falls a sleep in death, Jehovah will still remember him, (as in resurrection). And Since many believe the wicked are tortured, there would be NO sleeping in a fiery place, would there?
see also (
Jonah 2:1,2 Then Jonah prayed unto the LORD his God out of the fish's belly, And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heard my voice). He didn't mention seeing demons and fire, did he? He thought he would die there, in a since it would have been his grave! "
HELL" is basically a covering for the dead, a grave! MANY do not understand what Jesus meant when he said at ,(
Matt. 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire). Do you really believe Jesus was saying, if someone calls another “fool”, they will go to a “hellfire”?
one define word for "
Raca" means foolish, let's analyze, to call someone foolish means that they're not acting wisely. to be called a fool means the same thing. so why would Jesus say if you call a "
Brother", Meaning a fellow Christian,(Raca= Fool), you would ONLY be judged. then say again if you call your brother a fool, you're in danger of a hellfire? first! Jesus was showing those following him suppose to be a spiritual family ,(
Mark 3:35). who should show love to each other ,(
John 13:34,35). Jesus meant that these negative actions can cause one to lose his life, NOT going to an actual fiery place. 2nd, Jesus who helped in ALL creations, knew that he NOR his Father created any "
hellfire". so this leads to the fact ,Jesus might have used the word "HELL." because as scriptures proved "HELL", isn't a fiery place, but NOT the word "
HELLFIRE." that word was placed by man, through means of satan. removing the actual word Jesus used.
why?, because satan KNEW many ,even "Christians", would believe, if Jesus said it, then it must be true. a Christian should KNOW satan tricks ,(
2Cor. 2:11). also the dead knows NOTHING, (
Eccles. 9:5,6), his thoughts are gone ,(
Psa. 146:4). now if they were in a "hellfire", and they KNEW IT, then God words would be a lie. because those burning forever would know that they're forever burning! and again God hates lies ,(
Pro. 6:16,17). and there NO "
SOUL", or ghost of the dead that's in fiery as MANY have said. because the "
SOUL", is a living being NOT a dead one ,(
Gen. 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul). the "
HELLFIRE", is a pagan false teaching that those of the Christendom world accepted. there's NO "fiery place. peace
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