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Old 09-16-2018, 12:25 PM
 
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Does that person automatically go to hell (christianity-wise)?
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Old 09-16-2018, 01:49 PM
 
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Does that person automatically go to hell (christianity-wise)?
The Bible presents demons as real entities. In Jewish literature, such as 1 Enoch, demons are said to be the spirits of the dead Nephilim of Genesis 6.

In my view, since the believer is indwelt by God the Holy Spirit that would argue against any possibility of a believer being possessed by a demon although believers can be influenced by Satanic and demonic doctrines. So if a person who is demon possessed dies, that person never placed his faith in Christ Jesus for eternal life and was never saved and remains in a state of condemnation. If however, a believer who has been influenced by demonic doctrines dies, he is still saved.

The subject of course has theologians on both sides of the issue. Some believe that a believer can be demon possessed, while others believe that a believer cannot be possessed.
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Old 09-16-2018, 01:53 PM
 
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Does that person automatically go to hell (christianity-wise)?
Can a person be possessed by demonic possession or oppression if jesus/god/ghost did not want that person to be possessed or oppressed?

In other words can anything happen without the okay of the godfather?
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Old 09-16-2018, 03:09 PM
 
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If a person is possessed by a demon then Jesus Christ does not have that person , where as is the person is oppressed and has been saved by Jesus, than Jesus Christ can have that person , see demons cannot see God as demons are in darkness on the realm of the flesh , and Jesus can be praying for that person , but that person does not have knowledge of gifts he has to get rid of demons and can be oppressed or like Christians may get ill they would be oppressed by demons ......... If any person has Jesus Christ on their life and tries to walk in faith resisting sin to the eyes of God will be with God if they pass from this life even with any oppression from demons or the devil ............. Were people who are possessed would need to repent , or the scriptures Jesus told His disciples `` these demons only come out through prayer and fasting ``
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Old 09-16-2018, 03:12 PM
 
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If a person is possessed by a demon then Jesus Christ does not have that person , where as is the person is oppressed and has been saved by Jesus, than Jesus Christ can have that person , see demons cannot see God as demons are in darkness on the realm of the flesh , and Jesus can be praying for that person , but that person does not have knowledge of gifts he has to get rid of demons and can be oppressed or like Christians may get ill they would be oppressed by demons ......... If any person has Jesus Christ on their life and tries to walk in faith resisting sin to the eyes of God will be with God if they pass from this life even with any oppression from demons or the devil ............. Were people who are possessed would need to repent , or the scriptures Jesus told His disciples `` these demons only come out through prayer and fasting ``
So a demon has more majik powers then jesus per gods instructions?

Lets cut to the chase, did god sanction all the demon possessions or not?
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Old 09-16-2018, 03:52 PM
 
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Believing in hell is demonic and oppressive.
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Old 09-17-2018, 07:50 AM
 
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Believing in hell is demonic and oppressive.
What if people are oppressed by allowing it and what if people make their own hell? Is believing in that demonic?
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Old 09-17-2018, 09:47 AM
 
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Does that person automatically go to hell (christianity-wise)?
Only God can say/answer for sure.

We have no way of knowing all the relevant details; we will always have insufficient information.

It's not our position to be in that role of authority; we've never been given that option.

Stop trying to play God.

Focus on what you are responsible for; your life and your time here.
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Old 09-17-2018, 12:18 PM
 
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What if people are oppressed by allowing it and what if people make their own hell? Is believing in that demonic?
How any intelligent, compassionate or loving person could condemn others to an infinite place of pain and suffering is beyond me; that thought could only come from an evil spirit, which holds that person in bondage to the fear of their own mortality.
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Old 09-17-2018, 05:04 PM
 
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How any intelligent, compassionate or loving person could condemn others to an infinite place of pain and suffering is beyond me; that thought could only come from an evil spirit, which holds that person in bondage to the fear of their own mortality.
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