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Old 09-21-2018, 09:13 AM
 
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Did God have to say the word love?
Could they have loved something they didn't know? 'He' couldn't expect love could 'He?

You have to know something to love it...or else you're loving an idea... a story
someone told you...a feeling you get when you get filled with hope from those stories.
He didn't reveal 'Himself' to the common man...only to a handful...how do you love something you have never seen, heard, felt?


Added: Oh, Vf6...perhaps that's what you wanted to point out...What they knew of this God was pretty terrible if they heard about the Old T stories...they would be full of terror it would seem!
Now, is that how this God dealt with men way back then?
Or is that how men interpreted this God and He never did the horrible things they said He did?
But, I can see why He didn't say 'love'.

Deuteronomy 6 New King James Version (NKJV)

4 “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one! You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.


This, to me, is not a command but it goes with what you’re saying, Hep. It is a promise that as we experience what God really is (love) we will no longer accept all the hearsay about God that makes God out to be a terrifying and unstable dictator, but a God who is love and is worthy of being loved in return.

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Old 09-21-2018, 11:49 AM
 
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Deuteronomy 6 New King James Version (NKJV)

4 “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one! You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.


This, to me, is not a command but it goes with what you’re saying, Hep. It is a promise that as we experience what God really is (love) we will no longer accept all the hearsay about God that makes God out to be a terrifying and unstable dictator, but a God who is love and is worthy of being loved in return.
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Old 09-21-2018, 03:28 PM
 
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What is it?
Obedience.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft,...
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Old 09-22-2018, 05:45 AM
 
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Obedience.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft,...
That means no free will, right?
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Old 09-22-2018, 06:20 AM
 
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That means no free will, right?
Free will to follow or not...
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Old 09-22-2018, 06:21 AM
 
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Free will to follow or not...
Obedience has no choice
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:22 AM
 
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Obedience has no choice
Yes, it does...One can choose to obey or not...
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:50 AM
 
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Yes, it does...One can choose to obey or not...
Not if one has been indoctrinated into obedience at birth
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:51 AM
 
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Yes, it does...One can choose to obey or not...
Not if one has been indoctrinated into obedience at birth
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:51 AM
 
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Not if
One has been indoctrinated into obedience at birth
One still has a choice...
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