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Old 09-24-2018, 07:23 PM
 
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What do you think of this Bible?

Published in 1917, it became one of the best-selling Bibles of all time. I heard somewhere that they used to give it to religious students for free. There were two in my house growing up as it was very popular with Southern Baptists.

The controversy is that it contains so many footnotes that if you open any given page, sometimes the entire lower half of it is notes. But it's been the basis of modern Christian fundamentalism with it's Premillenial teachings, Creationist teachings, Literalist teachings, etc. It seems like this became such a standard and acceptable Bible that no one ever questioned it. "It was at grandma and grandpa's house, and they *must* have read it, so the teachings must be good because they are my grandparents". I actually thought a "normal" Bible was composed of 50% footnotes.

Doesn't anyone see a problem with this kind of thinking?
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Old 09-24-2018, 08:28 PM
 
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I have twenty two different Bibles, but the one that is full of notes is the one I wrote in myself.
However, I am not a fan of Scofield, but I am sure that John Hagee must love the hell out of it.
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Old 09-24-2018, 08:49 PM
 
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If you want to control people get on the ground floor.
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Old 09-25-2018, 04:36 AM
 
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If you want to control people get on the ground floor.
This particular Bible represents the TRUTH to most Christian Americans, I believe.

They grew up hearing its teachings, never once questioning any of them. That continues to this day. It doesn't matter that these particular teachings didn't even exist prior to the 1800's.
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Old 09-25-2018, 09:51 AM
 
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This particular Bible represents the TRUTH to most Christian Americans, I believe.
It does not.

The Scofield Bible is popular among evangelical fundamentalists and some full gospel / charismatic churches --- neither of which represent "most" American Christians. As a very rough estimate, that accounts for about 25% of American Christians. Hardly "most."

Mainline Protestants (15% of American Christians) largely think Scofield was a kook. Roman Catholics and Orthodox Christians (around 22% of American Christians) know he was.
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Old 09-25-2018, 11:49 AM
 
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What do you think of this Bible?

Published in 1917, it became one of the best-selling Bibles of all time. I heard somewhere that they used to give it to religious students for free. There were two in my house growing up as it was very popular with Southern Baptists.

The controversy is that it contains so many footnotes that if you open any given page, sometimes the entire lower half of it is notes. But it's been the basis of modern Christian fundamentalism with it's Premillenial teachings, Creationist teachings, Literalist teachings, etc. It seems like this became such a standard and acceptable Bible that no one ever questioned it. "It was at grandma and grandpa's house, and they *must* have read it, so the teachings must be good because they are my grandparents". I actually thought a "normal" Bible was composed of 50% footnotes.

Doesn't anyone see a problem with this kind of thinking?
Is there a specific issue you have with it? While the Bible is inspired and infallible, the notes in it may not be. It's certainly possible to disagree with the editors in regards to any of those ideas and not be in error.
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Old 09-25-2018, 11:51 AM
 
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Not a fan, but then again I am not a dispensational premillenialist.
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Old 09-25-2018, 04:46 PM
 
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Is there a specific issue you have with it? While the Bible is inspired and infallible, the notes in it may not be. It's certainly possible to disagree with the editors in regards to any of those ideas and not be in error.
The main issue I have is the "divide and conquer" mentality this causes many religious people to have. They think they can use a study guide to hop around from one passage to another. In reality, they SHOULD be reading an entire book within the Bible all at once, then go back and read the same book again if they don't understand it.

This fragmented approach to studying the Bible is wrong and evil. The true message of the Bible to anyone who reads it properly is Love. Nothing more. Nothing less. But people would rather extinguish that message completely, and will look for anything to replace it with by any means necessary.
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Old 09-25-2018, 05:05 PM
 
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The main issue I have is the "divide and conquer" mentality this causes many religious people to have. They think they can use a study guide to hop around from one passage to another. In reality, they SHOULD be reading an entire book within the Bible all at once, then go back and read the same book again if they don't understand it.

This fragmented approach to studying the Bible is wrong and evil. The true message of the Bible to anyone who reads it properly is Love. Nothing more. Nothing less. But people would rather extinguish that message completely, and will look for anything to replace it with by any means necessary.
I disagree with your views.

First, reading the Bible is not studying the Bible. And there is nothing evil or wrong about a particular way in which the Bible is studied. And in studying a particular subject or doctrine it is often necessary to 'hop around from one passage to another' in order to get the overall context of the Bible concerning a particular doctrine.

Secondly, there is more to the Bible's message than 'love.'

Thirdly, the Scofield Bible contains many good notes by Scofield.
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Old 09-26-2018, 06:04 AM
 
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The main issue I have is the "divide and conquer" mentality this causes many religious people to have. They think they can use a study guide to hop around from one passage to another. In reality, they SHOULD be reading an entire book within the Bible all at once, then go back and read the same book again if they don't understand it.

This fragmented approach to studying the Bible is wrong and evil. The true message of the Bible to anyone who reads it properly is Love. Nothing more. Nothing less. But people would rather extinguish that message completely, and will look for anything to replace it with by any means necessary.
Yup.

People like Scofield make the common mistake that the Bible is "a book." It isn't. The Bible is library of many books of many different genres. You don't approach Genesis the same way you approach Daniel or the Proverbs. The Gospels are different than the epistles, all of which are very different from Revelation. And then you get the really odd stuff like Song of Solomon, Job, and Tobit.
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