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Oh dear God, our soul will never be destroyed and no one is murdering anyone here......
let alone taking some 'mark'!
Is this what you're talking about Cain's mark so no one would kill him in Genesis 4?
No, they won't be destroyed, because only we are capable of destroying our own souls (we each have the capacity to be our own "murderers"), and Jesus said don't even fear that, because the Father loves each of us beyond measure, so we're in good hands. The Father won't fail us.
God has used many sinners to accomplish His good work. Noah resisted the Lord’s will. Moses commited murder. David was an adulterer. However, the Lord never uses one who mocks Him and His authority. So, does God view scoffers much worse than lying, thieving, murdering adulterers? Very possible.
Do not put your trust or belief in those who behave in this manner. To be considered worse than a murderer is something to be fearful about. For these trangressions, great repentence is required.
You're referring to what Jesus called blasphemy against the Holy Spirit which He specified as accusing Him (Jesus) of having an unclean Spirit (Mark 3:30). The scribes had accused Jesus of casting out demons by the power of Beelzebul (Satan), the ruler of demons (Mark 3:22).
The sin which Jesus said shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come (Matthew 12:32), the sin which never has forgiveness and is an eternal sin (Mark 3:29), the sin which will not be forgiven him (Luke 12:10) is in context, according to Jesus, attributing His casting out demons as being done by the power of Satan rather than by the power of the Holy Spirit. That is the sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. That is the sin which will not be forgiven because it is tantamount to rejecting Jesus as the Messiah.
Matthew 12:31 "Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 32] "Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Mark 3:28 "Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter; 29] but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin " 30] because they were saying, "He has an unclean spirit."
Luke 12:10 "And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him.
The unforgivable or unpardonable sin was one specific sin and is not murder or any sin other than blasphemy against the Holy Spirit (Matthew 12:31) which was accusing Jesus of having an unclean spirit by which He was able to cast out demons. This was tantamount to rejecting Jesus while He was on the earth by knowledgeable religious leaders - the Scribes, Pharisees and Sadducees, who despite the evidence, rejected Jesus' claims regarding Himself.
Well, as "many" misses seems to be a supporter of the Progressive movement, which is adamant to celebrate the killing of the innocent, I think "many" misses don't want to know what is apparently not so plainly said. And while persecuting and murdering the messengers of God seems to be a lingering sin, which is passed on (Matthew 23:35), the murdering of "innocents" seems to be addressed in the OT. Ezekiel 22:9 best expresses the actions of "slanderous men" who have tried in recent events to prolong the killing of innocent children and expand the legality of immorality/lewdness. Whatever the results, I would suggest one to find a rock to hide under (Revelation 6:16).
Ezekiel 22:9
"Slanderous men have been in you for the purpose of shedding blood, and in you they have eaten at the mountain shrines. In your midst they have committed acts of lewdness.
Like i said, "murder is the unforgivable sin and slander is its companion.
You're referring to what Jesus called blasphemy against the Holy Spirit which He specified as accusing Him (Jesus) of having an unclean Spirit (Mark 3:30). The scribes had accused Jesus of casting out demons by the power of Beelzebul (Satan), the ruler of demons (Mark 3:22).
The sin which Jesus said shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come (Matthew 12:32), the sin which never has forgiveness and is an eternal sin (Mark 3:29), the sin which will not be forgiven him (Luke 12:10) is in context, according to Jesus, attributing His casting out demons as being done by the power of Satan rather than by the power of the Holy Spirit. That is the sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. That is the sin which will not be forgiven because it is tantamount to rejecting Jesus as the Messiah.
Matthew 12:31 "Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 32] "Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Mark 3:28 "Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter; 29] but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin " 30] because they were saying, "He has an unclean spirit."
Luke 12:10 "And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him.
The unforgivable or unpardonable sin was one specific sin and is not murder or any sin other than blasphemy against the Holy Spirit (Matthew 12:31) which was accusing Jesus of having an unclean spirit by which He was able to cast out demons. This was tantamount to rejecting Jesus while He was on the earth by knowledgeable religious leaders - the Scribes, Pharisees and Sadducees, who despite the evidence, rejected Jesus' claims regarding Himself.
Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from you.”
39 He answered, “A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. 41 The men of Nineveh will stand up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and now something greater than Jonah is here. 42 The Queen of the South will rise at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for she came from the ends of the earth to listen to Solomon’s wisdom, and now something greater than Solomon is here.
43 “When an impure spirit comes out of a person, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. 44 Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order. 45 Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that person is worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked generation.”
That generation not only slandered the Lord. They followed through with their evil desires and murdered him.
And used a roman court to prosecute an innocent Loving person the likes of which is something they deemed of no value. To them Life meant nothing.
Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from you.”
39 He answered, “A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. 41 The men of Nineveh will stand up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and now something greater than Jonah is here. 42 The Queen of the South will rise at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for she came from the ends of the earth to listen to Solomon’s wisdom, and now something greater than Solomon is here.
43 “When an impure spirit comes out of a person, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. 44 Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order. 45 Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that person is worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked generation.”
That generation not only slandered the Lord. They followed through with their evil desires and murdered him.
And used a roman court to prosecute an innocent Loving person the likes of which is something they deemed of no value. To them Life meant nothing.
Matthew 12:31 "Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven.
Murder is not the unforgivable sin. One specific sin. . . accusing Jesus of performing His miracles though the power of Satan is what Jesus said was the unforgivable sin. Not murder. Get over it. And if you won't believe even Jesus, then . . .
Like i said, "murder is the unforgivable sin and slander is its companion.
While I can't condone "murder", it apparently was not addressed in the context of Matthew 12:31-32, which was the Pharisees thinking that Yeshua cast out demons by the power of Beelzebul, and not the Spirit of God. Denying the Spirit of God, is the central point of that discourse. With respect to the context in comparison to the modern day, that would be modern man rejecting the Spirit of God, by saying his "Word", His Spirit of Revelation, is obsolete (Hebrews 8:13). Although one follows the other. Reject the "Word of God" and you will no doubt support the killing of innocent children. Follow the false prophets, and you follow the broad way to "destruction" (Matthew 7:13-15).
Matthew 12:31, “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.” If a person truly listens to the promptings of the Holy Spirit and asks for pardon and forgiveness that person is not guilty of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
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You're referring to what Jesus called blasphemy against the Holy Spirit which He specified as accusing Him (Jesus) of having an unclean Spirit (Mark 3:30). The scribes had accused Jesus of casting out demons by the power of Beelzebul (Satan), the ruler of demons (Mark 3:22).
The sin which Jesus said shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come (Matthew 12:32), the sin which never has forgiveness and is an eternal sin (Mark 3:29), the sin which will not be forgiven him (Luke 12:10) is in context, according to Jesus, attributing His casting out demons as being done by the power of Satan rather than by the power of the Holy Spirit. That is the sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. The unforgivable or unpardonable sin was one specific sin and is not murder or any sin other than blasphemy against the Holy Spirit (Matthew 12:31) which was accusing Jesus of having an unclean spirit by which He was able to cast out demons.
FINALLY! Thank you Mike ...you explained it like a Theology Professor...clearly, for students
While I can't condone "murder", it apparently was not addressed in the context of Matthew 12:31-32, which was the Pharisees thinking that Yeshua cast out demons by the power of Beelzebul, and not the Spirit of God. Denying the Spirit of God, is the central point of that discourse. With respect to the context in comparison to the modern day, that would be modern man rejecting the Spirit of God, by saying his "Word", His Spirit of Revelation, is obsolete (Hebrews 8:13).
Matthew 12:31, “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.” If a person truly listens to the promptings of the Holy Spirit and asks for pardon and forgiveness that person is not guilty of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,
And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
There is no difference between the slanderer of the Holy Spirit and a murderer. They are one and the same.
For this is the message you heard from the beginning: We should love one another. 12 Do not be like Cain, who belonged to the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own actions were evil and his brother’s were righteous. 13 Do not be surprised, my brothers and sisters,[b] if the world hates you. 14 We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love each other. Anyone who does not love remains in death. 15 Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him.
And what happened to cain
Destroyed from the face of the earth along with all that received his mark.
No, they won't be destroyed, because only we are capable of destroying our own souls (we each have the capacity to be our own "murderers"), and Jesus said don't even fear that, because the Father loves each of us beyond measure, so we're in good hands. The Father won't fail us.
New American Standard Bible Matthew 18:8 "If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; it is better for you to enter life crippled or lame, than to have two hands or two feet and be cast into the eternal fire.
FINALLY! Thank you Mike ...you explained it like a Theology Professor...clearly, for students
You're welcome.
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