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Old 10-01-2018, 08:43 AM
 
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What if the consenting adults have no intentions of marriage?
Consenting adults need to make their own decisions. Some consenting adults have a desire to consider the ramifications of engaging in sex outside of marriage for themselves, for those they engage with, and for any others whom their actions have the potential to impact.
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Old 10-01-2018, 09:01 AM
 
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Genesis 24 New King James Version (NKJV)

66 And the servant told Isaac all the things that he had done. 67 Then Isaac brought her into his mother Sarahís tent; and he took Rebekah and she became his wife, and he loved her. So Isaac was comforted after his motherís death.


the marriage of Isaac and Rebekah did not involved a state marriage license
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Old 10-01-2018, 12:05 PM
 
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What if the consenting adults have no intentions of marriage?
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Consenting adults need to make their own decisions. Some consenting adults have a desire to consider the ramifications of engaging in sex outside of marriage for themselves, for those they engage with, and for any others whom their actions have the potential to impact.
I live in the moment with no future plans of getting married or having more children.
However, we do need to be circumspect without playing one's cards, so close to the heart.
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Old 10-01-2018, 12:13 PM
 
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I live in the moment with no future plans of getting married or having more children.
However, we do need to be circumspect without playing one's cards, so close to the heart.
Are you saying that itís still important to consider the emotional (physical too, obviously) well-being of self and others under the circumstances youíve described? I would agree.
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Old 10-01-2018, 12:27 PM
 
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Are you saying that itís still important to consider the emotional (physical too, obviously) well-being of self and others under the circumstances youíve described? I would agree.
We should always consider the effects of our actions.
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Old 10-01-2018, 12:38 PM
 
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Let's go back to the stated goal, Creamer; you got it wrong. That is what is uppermost in the minds of the sin-conscious who can't see past that to what love really means. It's not a matter of stopping something you may desire, but of growing in that concern for others that causes you to want to express that positively.

Change your focus: go from victory to victory.


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This. Itís the only response to your question that matters. (If listening to anyone is uplifting to you, donít worry what others say. Iíve only heard Osteen speak a time or two. I never got the sense that the focus of his message was on money, but rather on joy and trusting God. Whether or not he heeds his own message is between him and his own conscience.)
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Old 10-01-2018, 04:42 PM
 
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Sort of a HUGE problem in today's society, don't you think?


I had always learned, that, any sex before being married was considered a sin, also sexual acts upon oneself (sorry.) That, if not within marriage, were considered a sin in the eyes of the Lord.


Now, if the goal of a Christian life is to not sin, and honor God.. This has ALWAYS created great conflict for me.


I may be in this category because even if I have not had sex, I cannot say I am innocent of.



If I am saved, (and I am, just backsliding. I also accept Christ back in every time I hear Joel Osteen or go to a service.. I have been Water Baptized one time,) then I am not sure if these things even matter.


Can anyone with Christian background help me out? I'm not really interested in the "There is no God" thing because I know that there is, and that his name is Jesus, son of the Father, who sits on the throne. The three in one.
Ironic that you are asking about sex before marriage and your handle is Creamer...
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Old 10-01-2018, 04:46 PM
 
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sex before marriage is not a sin

Leviticus 18 lists all the sexual sins and none of them mentioned sex before marriage
And the fact that Isaac and Rebecca had sex as soon as she stepped down off of her horse...No wedding is shown to have taken place...After he had sex with her, she became his wife...
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Old 10-01-2018, 04:53 PM
 
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If a married man has sex with a married woman (other than ones own wife), is it adultery?
Yes, they were put to death (Leviticus 20:10, Deuteronomy 22:22-24).

If a married man has sex with an unmarried women, is it adultery?
No, she became his wife (Genesis 4:19; 29:23-30; 31:17; 32:22; 36:2,6, Exodus 21:10, Deuteronomy 21:15-17; 25:5-10, Judges 8:30, 1 Samuel 1:2; 25:42-43; 30:18, 2 Samuel 5:13, 1 Kings 11:1-3, 1 Chronicles 4:5; 8:8; 14:3, 2 Chronicles 11:21; 12:7-8; 13:21; 24:3, Daniel 5:2-3).

If an unmarried man has sex with a married woman, is it adultery?
Yes, they were put to death (Leviticus 20:10, Deuteronomy 22:22-24).

If an unmarried man has sex with an unmarried woman, is it adultery?
No, they were commanded to marry each other (Exodus 22:16-17, Deuteronomy 22:28).
You forgot that if they were in the country that only the man would be stoned because the woman may have cried out for help and no one could hear her, but if in town, they would stone both for she had not cried out for help...
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Old 10-01-2018, 04:55 PM
 
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There is only one sin.

Not believing.

As Jesus said; "Sin, because they do not believe in me."

The reason you think you sin is you do not BELIEVE.

If you truly believe you cannot sin. You may do things that are considered sin but they are already forgiven because you BELIEVE.
Get outta jail free card...
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