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Old 10-02-2018, 12:17 PM
 
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Do you believe that earthly treasures are things of Satan?
No.


Now, crime, hate, anger, jealousy, addiction, abuse, low self esteem, laziness,
depression, indignation, unforgiveness....yes....that being part of the lower ego self.
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Old 10-02-2018, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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NOTHING is an IDOL if it is NOT idolized, Hanni. The state of mind of idolizing determines what is being idolized NOT any specific things. You cannot idolize anything you do not INTEND to idolize.
When people make an image to God, they never thought it was the actual God, when Israel made a golden calf, the invisible God was upon the calf, they didn't think the Calf was a God, but they made an image, and an image is never the real thing, it is an image. An Image of Christ upon a cross or even a cross is an idol by definition........Israel returning to their paganism is people returning to paganism, Christians returned to paganism and Constantine establish an idol that became a very common thing, and it isn't anything else but idolatry no matter what the person thinks, it is an image in place of the real invisible God because we can't see the God, but we can see an image. People will rationalize their own idolatry and their own paganism as if the laws don't apply to them, and I mean the laws against involving one's self in paganism and the worship practices of other Gods they converted to. It is always so ironic when Christians look back at the golden calf to scoff at Israel making a Golden calf, but Christians do the same exact thing and think it isn't the same thing, but it is the same thing. Rationalize much?
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Old 10-02-2018, 03:22 PM
 
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NOTHING is an IDOL if it is NOT idolized, Hanni. The state of mind of idolizing determines what is being idolized NOT any specific things. You cannot idolize anything you do not INTEND to idolize.
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When people make an image to God, they never thought it was the actual God, when Israel made a golden calf, the invisible God was upon the calf, they didn't think the Calf was a God, but they made an image, and an image is never the real thing, it is an image. An Image of Christ upon a cross or even a cross is an idol by definition........Israel returning to their paganism is people returning to paganism, Christians returned to paganism and Constantine establish an idol that became a very common thing, and it isn't anything else but idolatry no matter what the person thinks, it is an image in place of the real invisible God because we can't see the God, but we can see an image. People will rationalize their own idolatry and their own paganism as if the laws don't apply to them, and I mean the laws against involving one's self in paganism and the worship practices of other Gods they converted to. It is always so ironic when Christians look back at the golden calf to scoff at Israel making a Golden calf, but Christians do the same exact thing and think it isn't the same thing, but it is the same thing. Rationalize much?
Those of you who are so deeply indoctrinated in your carnal mindset have no clue about God. God is concerned with our "state of mind," period. The only way you can sin is to have an unloving state of mind! it has nothing to do with physical objects or physical behavior. It is ALL about your state of mind!
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Old 10-02-2018, 03:47 PM
 
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Those of you who are so deeply indoctrinated in your carnal mindset have no clue about God. God is concerned with our "state of mind," period. The only way you can sin is to have an unloving state of mind! it has nothing to do with physical objects or physical behavior. It is ALL about your state of mind!
That is pretty much what Universalism is, isn't it?


Anything goes, but this is not the case of Messiah bringing a covenant to Ephraim and Judah, and while Christians and Atheists, and Hindus and Muslims might all be saved in the same outer court of Gentiles, it has nothing to do with the covenant Jesus brought for Ephraim and Judah, it is the opposite....Christians who involve themselves in paganism have to come at this Universalism as accepting Universalism because they aren't under the covenant of Messiah and so they are with everyone else in all other religions, and I believe God looks at the heart also, and so in that perspective, I would say pretty much everyone is saved. Christians on the other hand, they continuously make false claims about their being in the covenant Messiah brought for Ephraim and Judah. They just have a false claim that they are amongst Ephraim and Judah who all have an inheritance in Israel and a promise to be gathered with Israel when the conquering Messiah comes....


ANYONE can list and quote the very many scriptures about the covenant of Messiah, we can put the actual covenant for all to see and then explain how Christians do not fit the bill, and they don't fit the bill because they believe in other religions and they practice other religions where Israel is not allowed to do so, and the only way to be sealed with protection in your right hand and in your forehead is to reject all pagan practices to ONLY accept God's Sabbaths and God's feasts, and this is not an opinion, it is a fact of biblical law, and of the promises of God to any Gentile who seeks an inheritance in Israel.


Christians do not seek the inheritance offered because they refuse to join God's religion to become one people with Jews.


It's like Protestants who keep what is wholly Catholic law, wholly Catholic Sabbaths and feasts with their traditions and rituals and yet they don't believe they are Catholic. Christians follow what is wholly Catholic law, with wholly Catholic holy days that are in direct contradiction to God's worship system where Gentiles are added into the covenant by accepting ONLY God's Sabbaths and feasts. I can point out what the Christian does with his hands, and how Holy days and traditions a person keep LABEL THEM, but although you show them laws against paganism, they don't believe it because they choose not to believe it, they don't believe what their hands do, and their hands prove that they aren't in the covenant that made the Gentile one with the Jew.




The spiritual treasure a member of Israel would seek, it is to stand with God while the whole world hates the ways of God and hates you because you refuse to stop following God, and in this is great treasure..........The refined Gold, and the oil you buy is done by Joining and being a part of Israel, to serve Israel and it's people where you give up all you own and you spend your time and money serving Israel, and this is the wealthy man.
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Old 10-02-2018, 03:54 PM
 
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Is it really true that earthly treasures such as wealth, popularity, earthly things (cars, boats, motorcycles, houses, clothing, furniture, electronics) are things of Satan?
Earthly treasures are just that...we are only temporary overseers.
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Old 10-02-2018, 03:59 PM
 
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You spend your life in study decade after decade and then a time comes where you will go all the way to sell all you own to give to a Poor Jewish widow, or maybe a crippled old Jewish man in order to serve Israel. Jesus and the disciples went out serving Israel and the first thing Jesus said was that he had come to add Gentiles to the nation of Israel by getting gentiles to follow his lead in serving Israel. Jesus said that the prophesy had been fulfilled in their hearing, that Jesus claimed he had fulfilled what Isaiah 60 AND what Isaiah 61 said because Isaiah 60 is just a build up to the appointed year when Messiah would proclaim that the year of Liberty had come where the Gentiles of the world would begin to serve Israel, and from this service, the Gentile is promised great and powerful gifts from God because he does what pleases God...........


After you have sold all you own to follow in the ways of Jesus and the disciples, something so astonishing happens to you that nobody would believe it...You don't become wealthy, it is that you realize that you literally own everything and there are people all around you with money in they pockets and unbeknown to them, they only have that money in case you need it. You don't need a car after you have given away your vehicle because there are vehicles everywhere and you own all of them, it is your world and everyone around you will serve you and not even know why.
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Old 10-02-2018, 04:18 PM
 
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You spend your life in study decade after decade and then a time comes where you will go all the way to sell all you own to give to a Poor Jewish widow, or maybe a crippled old Jewish man in order to serve Israel. Jesus and the disciples went out serving Israel and the first thing Jesus said was that he had come to add Gentiles to the nation of Israel by getting gentiles to follow his lead in serving Israel. Jesus said that the prophesy had been fulfilled in their hearing, that Jesus claimed he had fulfilled what Isaiah 60 AND what Isaiah 61 said because Isaiah 60 is just a build up to the appointed year when Messiah would proclaim that the year of Liberty had come where the Gentiles of the world would begin to serve Israel, and from this service, the Gentile is promised great and powerful gifts from God because he does what pleases God...........


After you have sold all you own to follow in the ways of Jesus and the disciples, something so astonishing happens to you that nobody would believe it...You don't become wealthy, it is that you realize that you literally own everything and there are people all around you with money in they pockets and unbeknown to them, they only have that money in case you need it. You don't need a car after you have given away your vehicle because there are vehicles everywhere and you own all of them, it is your world and everyone around you will serve you and not even know why.
To each it's own, but "a good man leaves an inheritance" ain't bad advice.
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Old 10-02-2018, 05:32 PM
 
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Inheriting the Earth is after you have purchased the Gold, after you have purchased the silver, and after you have purchased the oil, and the oil is not the Holy spirit, it is teaching, the oil of knowledge that lights a man's path in truth that he may see the truth, unfortunately, before a person can go out and purchase the Gold, the silver, and the oil, he must first prove to himself what Gold is, what silver is and what the oil is......And when he figures it out, he goes out to find a pearl of great price, and there are many to choose from.

Luke 12:33
Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide yourselves with purses that will not wear out, an inexhaustible treasure in heaven, where no thief approaches and no moth destroys.


The Parables of the Treasure and Pearl
(Matthew 6:19-21)

44The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again, and in his joy he went and sold all he had and bought that field. 45Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant in search of fine pearls. 46When he found one very precious pearl, he went away and sold all he had and bought it.

YOU ARE THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.


Psalm 66:10
For You, O God, have tested us; You have refined us like silver.


Job 23:10
Yet He knows the way I have taken; when He has tested me, I will come forth as gold.


Revelation 3:18
I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined by fire so that you may become rich, white garments so that you may be clothed and your shameful nakedness not exposed, and salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see.


The Shepherd Struck, the Sheep Scattered
…8And in all the land,” declares the LORD, “two-thirds will be cut off and perish, but a third will be left in it. 9This third I will bring through the fire; I will refine them like silver and test them like gold . They will call on My name, and I will answer them. I will say, ‘They are My people,’ and they will say, ‘The LORD is our God.’”


Matthew 25
8And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. 9But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.


Treasures in Heaven
19Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.21For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.…

Matthew 19:21
Jesus told him, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow Me."


Before you can buy the field that you find the pearl in, you must first know what a Pearl of great price is, and what the field is.
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