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Old 10-15-2018, 07:18 PM
 
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Your attempt at Jedi mind tricks cannot conceal your complete lack of knowledge about the OP.

The OP was a question about our preferences in crucifix fashion in churches.


You want to tell me Mary had no sex.



I would agree that you employ a certain craftiness as you moved the conversation in this direction.
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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When my son was 4, he pointed to a crucifix hanging in my parents' house and declared: "I don't like that Jesus on the plus sign."


He's 34 now, and perhaps unsurprisingly, irreligious.
That is so funny, maybe he didn't like idols of gods. OMG, you should see my house, there must be freaking 80 crosses and I don't know, maybe 20 thousand angels?
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Your attempt at Jedi mind tricks cannot conceal your complete lack of knowledge about the OP.
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The OP was a question about our preferences in crucifix fashion in churches.

You want to tell me Mary had no sex.

I would agree that you employ a certain craftiness as you moved the conversation in this direction.
He was seduced by the dark side of the Force.
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Old 10-15-2018, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Your attempt at Jedi mind tricks cannot conceal your complete lack of knowledge about the OP.

Rationality = Jedi mind tricks to little jimmiej.
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Old 10-16-2018, 06:23 AM
 
Location: central Florida
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If you earnestly seek God, your sins are washed away by the blood of Christ, whether you like it or not.
You begin well, but your assertion falls apart at the end.

If one earnestly seeks God, then why would one dislike being forgiven?

Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. - James 4:8

No sinner will be forgiven unless he or she approaches the altar of grace by faith in repentance. The act of repentance is a bone deep desire to be rid of sin, to STOP it and to even be rid of the stain of guilt that comes with it.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A LICENSE TO SIN.

The assumption that sins are washed away whether we like it or not is false. Sins are NOT washed away at all unless there is a deep sincere desire to be rid of them. Forgiveness is God's gracious act of taking our guilt away. It is based upon the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross as well as our personal desire to be rid of sin.

A double minded man or woman will not be forgiven.

The desire to put away sin must be absolute. Then and only then will the absolute cleansing of forgiveness be applied by God. God is not a fool and doesn't give away His precious blood unless the persona who asks is serious.

The time to repent is now. The time to put away sin for all time is now. The time to seek God in humility and in absolute desire to do His will is now.

There are no other alternatives and no other options.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
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Old 10-16-2018, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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You begin well, but your assertion falls apart at the end.

If one earnestly seeks God, then why would one dislike being forgiven?

Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. - James 4:8

No sinner will be forgiven unless he or she approaches the altar of grace by faith in repentance. The act of repentance is a bone deep desire to be rid of sin, to STOP it and to even be rid of the stain of guilt that comes with it.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A LICENSE TO SIN.

The assumption that sins are washed away whether we like it or not is false. Sins are NOT washed away at all unless there is a deep sincere desire to be rid of them. Forgiveness is God's gracious act of taking our guilt away. It is based upon the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross as well as our personal desire to be rid of sin.

A double minded man or woman will not be forgiven.

The desire to put away sin must be absolute. Then and only then will the absolute cleansing of forgiveness be applied by God. God is not a fool and doesn't give away His precious blood unless the persona who asks is serious.

The time to repent is now. The time to put away sin for all time is now. The time to seek God in humility and in absolute desire to do His will is now.

There are no other alternatives and no other options.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
Ronkie doesn’t believe the blood of Christ has any effect on sin.
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Old 10-16-2018, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Ronkie doesn’t believe the blood of Christ has any effect on sin.

Nor do most sane people.
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Old 10-16-2018, 08:26 AM
 
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Ronkie doesn’t believe the blood of Christ has any effect on sin.

Morning jimmie,



I think you should stop sinning. God wants you to stop sinning, too.



Choir says you do not have a license to sin. BP thinks he is crazy. So, who knows?



You believe you cannot help yourself, and sinning is in your flesh. That is the believe of men who do not take responsibility. They whine, not my fault. I have flesh.



You continue to sin, therefore the blood of a man on the cross ,in an agonizing death, has not served its purpose. If you consider it further, the blood was given to you in vain.


Love, Ronkie


PS. I love you despite your irrational beliefs and relationship with a book rather than God.
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Old 10-16-2018, 08:30 AM
 
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I would rather use a cross without Jesus on it in a church building because crucifixes can be an idol. However I am fine of using one as a decoration. Though i can understand why some churches use a crucifix in their churches which reminds them of Jesus' suffering and death on the cross but at the same time if it is worshipped then it becomes an idol
Anyone prefer an empty electric chair/ noose over a filled one in their church buildings?
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Old 10-16-2018, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Morning jimmie,



I think you should stop sinning. God wants you to stop sinning, too.



Choir says you do not have a license to sin. BP thinks he is crazy. So, who knows?



You believe you cannot help yourself, and sinning is in your flesh. That is the believe of men who do not take responsibility. They whine, not my fault. I have flesh.



You continue to sin, therefore the blood of a man on the cross ,in an agonizing death, has not served its purpose. If you consider it further, the blood was given to you in vain.


Love, Ronkie


PS. I love you despite your irrational beliefs and relationship with a book rather than God.
Still trying to entice me with your Jedi mind tricks?
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