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Old 10-16-2018, 10:26 AM
 
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Their only excuse is to remain ignorant or make a change for the better.
Hoping for the latter to come quickly. As it has been expressed, “Thy Kingdom come.” . May the love of God rule in every heart. Amen.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:08 PM
 
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Many Biblical authors bore false witness against God, attributing all sorts of evil things to God, apparently out of ignorance that God is Love. What is the excuse, now, of those who claim to know that God is love for continuing to propagate that ignorance?
cite the scripture to verify your claim.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:11 PM
 
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What I am insinuating is that he must find another verse to support his commandment of not lying because that one has to do with telling untruths about your neighbor...
Yeshua replied to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me; because I came out from God; and now I have arrived here. I did not come on my own; he sent me. 43 Why don’t you understand what I’m saying? Because you can’t bear to listen to my message. 44 You belong to your father, Satan, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. From the start he was a murderer, and he has never stood by the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he tells a lie, he is speaking in character; because he is a liar — indeed, the inventor of the lie!


A murderer, liar, and theif.
You shall not murder. You shall not commit adultery. You shall not steal.

You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
14You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, his manservant, his maidservant, his ox, his donkey, or whatever belongs to your neighbor."



And the following reads something about covetousness?
So again i ask is it ok to lie otherwise?

Yes or no will suffice.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:19 PM
 
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Spot on....
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:20 PM
 
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cite the scripture to verify your claim.
You’ve read and studied the Bible as much as any of us have. If you don’t already know what things attributed to God by its authors contradict the description of love, then perhaps you don’t know what love is?
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:30 PM
 
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You’ve read and studied the Bible as much as any of us have. If you don’t already know what things attributed to God by its authors contradict the description of love, then perhaps you don’t know what love is?
Many believe it's merely a feeling; and not the way of living or experiencing life more abundantly.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:34 PM
 
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Many believe it's merely a feeling; and not the way of living or experiencing life more abundantly.
Yes, perhaps that is where the disconnect is.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:47 PM
 
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You’ve read and studied the Bible as much as any of us have. If you don’t already know what things attributed to God by its authors contradict the description of love, then perhaps you don’t know what love is?
You keep examining the Tanakh because you think that in it you have eternal life. Those very Scriptures bear witness to me, 40 but you won’t come to me in order to have life!

41 “I don’t collect praise from men, 42 but I do know you people — I know that you have no love for God in you! 43 I have come in my Father’s name, and you don’t accept me; if someone else comes in his own name, him you will accept. 44 How can you trust? You’re busy collecting praise from each other, instead of seeking praise from God only.

45 “But don’t think that it is I who will be your accuser before the Father. Do you know who will accuse you? Mosheh, the very one you have counted on! 46 For if you really believed Mosheh, you would believe me; because it was about me that he wrote. 47 But if you don’t believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?”





What i do recall is what Yeshua explicitly stated and if you had actually read Just His Words in red letter you would of not made such a claim.
Especially when there might be innocent people reading your post that quickly find a tare that cannot be removed. It is up to you to clean house and never speak evil of the Prophets.

If it is intentional and you do not wish to Know the Truth.
Then it is Hate of God that is binding you.

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Old 10-16-2018, 01:42 PM
 
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I don’t think you can see it any differently right now, pinacle. But I know you take joy in studying words in the Bible (nothing wrong with pursuing things that interest you) so perhaps you will study “love” at some point. May that bring you joy as well.
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Old 10-16-2018, 02:49 PM
 
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Many Biblical authors bore false witness against God, attributing all sorts of evil things to God, apparently out of ignorance that God is Love. What is the excuse, now, of those who claim to know that God is love for continuing to propagate that ignorance?
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Their only excuse is to remain ignorant or make a change for the better.
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Hoping for the latter to come quickly. As it has been expressed, “Thy Kingdom come.” . May the love of God rule in every heart. Amen.
Amen!
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