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Old 10-12-2018, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland area
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I believe God is so powerful he is not capable of creating Free Will. Think about it, every story of the bible proves free will is not real. Free will can't exist in nature. We are programmed to commit all our actions in life from the moment of conception.

God can control every action you partake in. I only believe in superficial free will. You denying this or supporting this is predetermined by nature.

Adam and Eve eating the forbidden fruit proves free will cannot exist in nature. Jesus turning to the Apostle Peter and calling him Satan proves free will is not real. King David murdering the Husband of Bathsheba proves free will is not real. Free will can't exist in nature because God is to powerful to create it.

I believe Calvin is right about predestination. And that God knows this, and hell only lasts forever not for eternity. Once time dies and gives way to timelessness the damned will be released from hell because God loves the damned, and in the end we are all saved.

Because the greatest of sinners didn't choose to be sinners in the first place.

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Old 10-12-2018, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Mars City
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Uh huh. What about free will to choose or nor choose Jesus' ministry and offer of salvation? Scriptures repeat that we alone must make the decision.

Forget Calvin. He was no closer to God than any of us. His words are apparently more of a stumbling block to you than a benefit.
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Old 10-12-2018, 12:59 PM
 
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Uh huh. What about free will to choose or nor choose Jesus' ministry and offer of salvation? Scriptures repeat that we alone must make the decision.

Forget Calvin. He was no closer to God than any of us. His words are apparently more of a stumbling block to you than a benefit.
The Jews denying Jesus proves free will can't be real. How can anybody in there right mind deny Christ and choose a Hindu God or Buddha over Jesus? How could anybody in there right mind deny Jesus is God?
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Old 10-12-2018, 01:06 PM
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The Jews denying Jesus proves free will can't be real. How can anybody in there right mind deny Christ and choose a Hindu God or Buddha over Jesus? How could anybody in there right mind deny Jesus is God?

It's quite easy, really. However, it does require a modicum of intelligence, education and rationality.
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Old 10-12-2018, 01:12 PM
 
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It's quite easy, really. However, it does require a modicum of intelligence, education and rationality.
What college did you go too. I went to JJC the first community college in the nation and got 100% on a essay in history. I was a Political Science Major. How about you?
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Old 10-12-2018, 01:16 PM
 
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LOL We see where this going! No mercy should be expected Get out the popcorn, kids.
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Old 10-12-2018, 01:20 PM
 
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LOL We see where this going! No mercy should be expected Get out the popcorn, kids.
Have fun with your "Free wil" as for me I know the Truth that it's not real.
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Old 10-12-2018, 01:21 PM
 
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It's quite easy, really. However, it does require a modicum of intelligence, education and rationality.
It seems that of that list, the most important is rationality.
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Old 10-12-2018, 01:21 PM
 
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AlwaysByChance; you're setting yourself up nicely for ridicule. Your choice (wink).
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Old 10-12-2018, 01:24 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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What college did you go too. I went to JJC the first community college in the nation and got 100% on a essay in history. I was a Political Science Major. How about you?

BA in Journalism with minors in Psychology and Sociology from the University of Western Ontario.
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