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Old 10-14-2018, 11:49 PM
 
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I am not a believer in Universalism, or Progressive Christianity. The Church of Latter Day Saints would never refer to me as a Mormon. I am a Bible believing born again Christian. Religions that do not adhere to Christian orthodoxy and do not agree that the Bible is divinely inspired without error, are not part of my faith. Would not these institutions agree with this declaration.

For those in my Church we consider ourselves as The Elect. We either have been predestined or freely chose salvation. Regardless, we are the Church. Many are not. So, why do some consider this statement as offensive?
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Old 10-14-2018, 11:52 PM
 
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I am not a believer in Universalism, or Progressive Christianity. The Church of Latter Day Saints would never refer to me as a Mormon. I am a Bible believing born again Christian. Religions that do not adhere to Christian orthodoxy and do not agree that the Bible is divinely inspired without error, are not part of my faith. All parties involved would uniformly agree with this declaration.

For those in my Church we consider ourselves as The Elect. We either have been predestined or freely chose salvation. Regardless, we are the Church. Many are not. So, why do some consider this truth as offensive?
Probably because they feel you are tooting your own 'Elect' horn in their face.
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Old 10-14-2018, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I am not a believer in Universalism, or Progressive Christianity. The Church of Latter Day Saints would never refer to me as a Mormon. I am a Bible believing born again Christian. Religions that do not adhere to Christian orthodoxy and do not agree that the Bible is divinely inspired without error, are not part of my faith. Would not these institutions agree with this declaration.

For those in my Church we consider ourselves as The Elect. We either have been predestined or freely chose salvation. Regardless, we are the Church. Many are not. So, why do some consider this statement as offensive?

Because it's stupid.
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Old 10-15-2018, 12:44 AM
 
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I am not a believer in Universalism or Progressive Christianity. The Church of Latter Day Saints would never refer to me as a Mormon. I am a Bible believing born again Christian. Religions that do not adhere to Christian orthodoxy and do not agree that the Bible is divinely inspired without error, are not part of my faith. Would not these institutions agree with this declaration?

For those in my Church, we consider ourselves as The Elect. We either have been predestined or freely chose salvation. Regardless, we are the Church. Many are not. So, why do some consider this statement as offensive?
Because it IS! Imagine, the one Almighty God over all Reality considers you special over everyone who does not agree with you and your religious dogma. Riiiiiiiight! How does anyone get to be so self-righteous and self-important????
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Old 10-15-2018, 04:12 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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I am not a believer in Universalism, or Progressive Christianity. The Church of Latter Day Saints would never refer to me as a Mormon. I am a Bible believing born again Christian. Religions that do not adhere to Christian orthodoxy and do not agree that the Bible is divinely inspired without error, are not part of my faith. Would not these institutions agree with this declaration.

For those in my Church we consider ourselves as The Elect. We either have been predestined or freely chose salvation. Regardless, we are the Church. Many are not. So, why do some consider this statement as offensive?
Maybe because of what JEsus has said...


"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.


3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

Proverbs 27:2

Let another praise you, and not your own mouth; A stranger, and not your own lips.


1 Corinthians 3:21

So then let no one boast in men For all things belong to you,



James 4:16

But as it is, you boast in your arrogance; all such boasting is evil.



Psalm 75:5

Do not lift up your horn on high, Do not speak with insolent pride.'"




Psalm 10:3

For the wicked boasts of his heart's desire, And the greedy man curses and spurns the LORD.
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Old 10-15-2018, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I am not a believer in Universalism, or Progressive Christianity. The Church of Latter Day Saints would never refer to me as a Mormon. I am a Bible believing born again Christian. Religions that do not adhere to Christian orthodoxy and do not agree that the Bible is divinely inspired without error, are not part of my faith. Would not these institutions agree with this declaration.

For those in my Church we consider ourselves as The Elect. We either have been predestined or freely chose salvation. Regardless, we are the Church. Many are not. So, why do some consider this statement as offensive?
So offensive they killed Jesus and all but one of the Apostles for preaching it.
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Old 10-15-2018, 09:11 AM
 
Location: New England
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So offensive they killed Jesus and all but one of the Apostles for preaching it.
Have you any idea how much blood has been spilt in the name of christianity?. I can guarantee you none has been at the hands of christian universalists.
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Old 10-15-2018, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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I am not a believer in Universalism, or Progressive Christianity. The Church of Latter Day Saints would never refer to me as a Mormon. I am a Bible believing born again Christian. Religions that do not adhere to Christian orthodoxy and do not agree that the Bible is divinely inspired without error, are not part of my faith. Would not these institutions agree with this declaration.

For those in my Church we consider ourselves as The Elect. We either have been predestined or freely chose salvation. Regardless, we are the Church. Many are not. So, why do some consider this statement as offensive?
No problem. We don't need labels and identifications (incl. "The Elect"). Just Be, and be content.
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Old 10-15-2018, 10:51 AM
 
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I am not a believer in Universalism, or Progressive Christianity. The Church of Latter Day Saints would never refer to me as a Mormon. I am a Bible believing born again Christian. Religions that do not adhere to Christian orthodoxy and do not agree that the Bible is divinely inspired without error, are not part of my faith. Would not these institutions agree with this declaration.

For those in my Church we consider ourselves as The Elect. We either have been predestined or freely chose salvation. Regardless, we are the Church. Many are not. So, why do some consider this statement as offensive?
You're a rare breed around here.
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Old 10-15-2018, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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For those in my Church we consider ourselves as The Elect. We either have been predestined or freely chose salvation. Regardless, we are the Church. Many are not. So, why do some consider this statement as offensive?
For starters, I don't believe God has predestined anyone to be either "saved" or "damned." So for someone to say, "God personally chose me over you," is offensive. If that requires an explanation, I'm at a complete loss as to what to say.
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