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Old 10-27-2018, 11:04 AM
 
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For ALL of Humanity have been forgiven, not just the believer's.
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This is such false doctrine that it doesn't even belong on a Christian forum. Sad.
You have been following another gospel which isn't good news, now that's sad.
For some reason, you believe that the falling away is just now happening?
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Old 11-06-2018, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Mobile, Al.
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all the world have been forgiven for their sins. 1John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.


but salvation is based on the acceptance of JESUS the son.

we all was in prision, per say. and the divine King gave pardons to all of us. the stipulation to the pardon, get a driver license in his son name instead of your own name. some "OBEYED" the King, and many, when back to driving for themselves the way they was before. and the one's who disobeyed, the King is angry with them.

Rom 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
Rom 2:8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
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Old 11-06-2018, 09:10 AM
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You've got to explain something to me, Mystic. What is your basis for believing that a spirit cannot develop to maturity without a pregnancy being involved? Or maybe you meant something entirely different than what it sounded like.
the spirit at pentacost that landed on them as tongues of fire looks fully formed to me.
but they had been with Jesus for 3 years also..

hum that is an interesting question you two asked !
does his spirit change us or do we change it ?
because that is basicly what mystic trying to question I think ..
if it grows , then we change it .
if we grow into it .. it changes us.
I vote for the latter one..
that means it is full grown in us and it changes us .

I can't tell if mystic thinks if the spirit of God grows in him that he can change the spirit of God ?
mystic will have to answer that. I can't tell what he is asking.

but I agree with you that it is full formed and we grow into it .
and it leads us to righteousness and back to the Father and not the other way around.

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Old 11-06-2018, 02:46 PM
 
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I am confident a Spirit can develop, so that is not in question. In fact, that is what our Spirits are supposed to do once conceived. But if it is destined to be "born again" it must have a "spiritual pregnancy" period unless you know of anything in our reality that is "born" without one.
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I have no idea what a "spiritual pregnancy" is, so I really couldn't say. It sounds much less uncomfortable than a physical one, though.
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Given my experiences actually trying to put into practice loving God and each other every single day and repenting when I don't, it may not be as physically uncomfortable as a physical pregnancy, but it is no fun.
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the spirit at Pentecost that landed on them as tongues of fire looks fully formed to me.
but they had been with Jesus for 3 years also..

hum, that is an interesting question you two asked!
does his spirit change us or do we change it?
because that is basicly what mystic trying to question I think...
if it grows, then we change it.
if we grow into it .. it changes us.
I vote for the latter one..
that means it is full grown in us and it changes us.

I can't tell if mystic thinks if the spirit of God grows in him that he can change the spirit of God?
mystic will have to answer that. I can't tell what he is asking.

but I agree with you that it is full formed and we grow into it.
and it leads us to righteousness and back to the Father and not the other way around.
The Holy Spirit (Comforter) is obviously fully mature since it is Christ's born again Spirit. Our Spirit is the immature embryonic one that must mature in this life sufficiently to be "born again" as Spirit like Christ's was.
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Old 11-06-2018, 07:16 PM
 
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The Holy Spirit (Comforter) is obviously fully mature since it is Christ's born again Spirit. Our Spirit is the immature embryonic one that must mature in this life sufficiently to be "born again" as Spirit like Christ's was.
I agree, we must mature spiritually to be born anew or again.
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Old 11-06-2018, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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That is what the 7 year plan is for, and that 7 year plan is one week with all the days named.

One gives birth after 42 months, and although Jesus went all the way to death in 42 months, it doesn't mean everyone does.

People can continue in Elijah their entire lives.

Elijah must be taken away and all his imaginations are evil. Elijah is the one and true hero of the bible in the eyes of most, but Elijah failed in his mission when he ran from sure death.

The disciples also thought Elijah was the hero when they said,'' Shall we call fire down from heaven on the heads of these?''


What did Jesus tell them?

''You speak from your father Satan.''

When you see one who calls fire down from heaven in the sight of men, WHO IS HE?

Exactly.

Yet, many do the same today, they run around with fire coming out of they mouths all their lives, forget about 42 months.

You are appointed 42 months for calling fire down from heaven, and then you look in the mirror and die.
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Old 11-07-2018, 07:57 AM
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(Ephesians 1:17)

“If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you.” – (James 1:5)
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