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Old 10-23-2018, 11:55 AM
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This guy is a load of fun, I bet.

Probably nearly as much as Eeyore.
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Old 10-23-2018, 12:03 PM
 
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No, but you should be.
I guess my high tolerance for pain has gotten me in trouble while walking through briar patches all this time.
Hope I didn't hurt the briar patch.
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Old 10-23-2018, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Where rhotic consonants are either absent or intrusive
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You mean like Chinese cookery and pole dancing lessons?

I kid, I kid.

Seriously though, I agree with the Mightyqueen: a church that is a community hub is more likely to have a mix of secular and Jesus-y activities.
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Old 10-23-2018, 08:13 PM
 
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Social justice isn't Christian? That kind of flies in the history of social justice.
Much of the Social Justice activism in today’s modern terms is in direct conflict with the Biblical Christian faith.

Illegal aliens- Anyone purposely entering or staying in a country illegally is breaking the law. Peter says obey the government. 1 Peter 2:13. - Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority, 14 or to governors as sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and the praise of those who do right.
Gay rights- Lev 11 10-13 God calls homosexuality an abomination
Diversity- based upon gender, and race. Yet, all men are created equal. Romans 10-12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus
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Old 10-23-2018, 08:21 PM
 
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In looking at my church’s Sunday bulletin and website, it seems like at least half of the number of church events are secular. For example, my church is currently featuring several plays (performed by church members but totally secular), lectures (by an outside secular speaker and on a secular topic), social justice events (again, totally secular), a children’s “autumn festival”, book groups (for church members, but reading a secular book) and the like. Only a minority of events are “Christian”, such as youth ministry events, classes and the like.

This seems weird to me. Does your church do the same thing: having a large portion of its programs being totally secular?

I’d think that a church would focus on its niche- Christianity- and would leave the secular stuff to other groups. This also seems like unusual marketing; why compete with secular groups for secular events?
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Old 10-23-2018, 08:35 PM
 
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It's a church, not a country club

No church picnic?

No choir fundraiser?

No church bazaar?

No Summer social?

No Seniors outings?

No Youth Group parties?


Sounds like your idea of church is kind of, well, dreary.

Further, what is social and what is not? For example, the church bazaar raises money for outreach activities. Our church picnic gives us a chance to establish friendships outside of the pews. If all youth groups did was study the Bible, good luck getting teenagers to attend. Of course, our Summer socials always ends with Compline, so there's that. But there's more to a church than simply the immediate act of corporate worship and Bible study. There is the building of a Christian community, one where we can nurture and sustain one another in our life in Christ.



To be sure, it's not the primary reason a congregation comes together. But it does enrich our time together in celebration of the life He gives us.
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Old 10-25-2018, 05:00 PM
 
Location: US
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Secular activities promote fellowship. They strengthen the church community. And with fellowship and a strong community, the structure exists to better worship and help those in the community struggling to worship as well.
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Old 10-25-2018, 05:07 PM
 
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In looking at my church’s Sunday bulletin and website, it seems like at least half of the number of church events are secular. For example, my church is currently featuring several plays (performed by church members but totally secular), lectures (by an outside secular speaker and on a secular topic), social justice events (again, totally secular), a children’s “autumn festival”, book groups (for church members, but reading a secular book) and the like. Only a minority of events are “Christian”, such as youth ministry events, classes and the like.

This seems weird to me. Does your church do the same thing: having a large portion of its programs being totally secular?

I’d think that a church would focus on its niche- Christianity- and would leave the secular stuff to other groups. This also seems like unusual marketing; why compete with secular groups for secular events?
Is the Sunday morning sermon secular, as well? Or does your pastor preach from the Bible?
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Old 10-25-2018, 05:39 PM
 
Location: New England
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Is the Sunday morning sermon secular, as well? Or does your pastor preach from the Bible?
Hopefully he preaches Jesus Christ Who went around doing good and healing all who were oppressed by fundamentalists beliefs about God.
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Old 10-26-2018, 09:20 AM
 
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Hopefully he preaches Jesus Christ Who went around doing good and healing all who were oppressed by fundamentalists beliefs about God.
Kind of the point of what I was asking.
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