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Old 10-25-2018, 07:07 PM
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Good for you, Katz, for listening to and following your own heart.
Seconded.

And be prepared to learn more than you teach.
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Old 10-25-2018, 07:13 PM
 
Location: New England
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Well, what did you learn, Jer?
To make sounds like this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBn5aIfZElE
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Old 10-25-2018, 07:31 PM
 
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I had the opportunity to talk with inmates from within, as I was jailed for a year for refusing to testify?
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Well, what did you learn, Jer?
That justice according to the thoughts of men is not always fair, right or impartial.
To go into anything else would detract from this thread, but no one should be intimidated.

Indeed, one should listen and follow their own heart.
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Old 10-25-2018, 07:48 PM
 
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Well, what did you learn, Jer?
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You never know what you will learn or who else you might help.
Be watchful and discreet, it may be your life that you save.

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Old 10-25-2018, 11:43 PM
 
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As some of you may know, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints ( score one point for me for using the "approved" nomenclature) issues "callings" to its members on a ward (i.e. congregational), a stake (i.e. several groups of congregations) and general church levels. When you are "extended a calling" to serve in a specific position, you may, of course, decline. Most Church members that I know accept every calling that comes their way, believing that the person who issued the calling was inspired to do so. As a kind of an atypical member of the Church, I accept only callings that I think I could enjoy and do a good job at. I haven't had a calling at all for the last couple of years. My husband is currently heading up our ward's Family History (i.e. genealogy) program.

Well, about a hour-and-a-half ago, my husband and I were asked to meet with our Stake President. That would imply that a calling is imminent. Neither of us could imagine what on earth it might be. As it turns out, we were called to serve for the next three years as Sunday School teachers to the inmates at the Salt Lake County Jail. It sounded intriguing, so we accepted.

So, for the next three years, we'll be driving about a half an hour every Sunday to the jail, where we'll be teaching inmates in the minimum, medium and maximum security areas of the jail. These are men who are awaiting trial or sentencing for various crimes. It's a LDS program, but apparently there are even more men who are not LDS than who are who attend. It's a "no touch" facility -- no handshakes, pats on the back or anything. So, within a couple of weeks, we'll be starting. This is my "I was in prison and ye visited me" contribution to the church, and to be perfectly honest, I'd rather be serving in the jail than in the temple. (I hope I don't get struck down for saying that!)
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Old 10-26-2018, 01:43 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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As some of you may know, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints ( score one point for me for using the "approved" nomenclature) issues "callings" to its members on a ward (i.e. congregational), a stake (i.e. several groups of congregations) and general church levels. When you are "extended a calling" to serve in a specific position, you may, of course, decline. Most Church members that I know accept every calling that comes their way, believing that the person who issued the calling was inspired to do so. As a kind of an atypical member of the Church, I accept only callings that I think I could enjoy and do a good job at. I haven't had a calling at all for the last couple of years. My husband is currently heading up our ward's Family History (i.e. genealogy) program.

Well, about a hour-and-a-half ago, my husband and I were asked to meet with our Stake President. That would imply that a calling is imminent. Neither of us could imagine what on earth it might be. As it turns out, we were called to serve for the next three years as Sunday School teachers to the inmates at the Salt Lake County Jail. It sounded intriguing, so we accepted.

So, for the next three years, we'll be driving about a half an hour every Sunday to the jail, where we'll be teaching inmates in the minimum, medium and maximum security areas of the jail. These are men who are awaiting trial or sentencing for various crimes. It's a LDS program, but apparently there are even more men who are not LDS than who are who attend. It's a "no touch" facility -- no handshakes, pats on the back or anything. So, within a couple of weeks, we'll be starting. This is my "I was in prison and ye visited me" contribution to the church, and to be perfectly honest, I'd rather be serving in the jail than in the temple. (I hope I don't get struck down for saying that!)
Gratz, Katz!
My wife's best friend's brother, Doug, served eleven years in a Florida penitentiary for writing bad checks. He said within two years he lost his wife and that his daughter, even after his release, wouldn't speak to him. So these men can be very depressed.

Doug also told me it is very easy to convert those in prison--very easy. They live in a controlled environment where everything is regulated. But once out, with the controls gone, it is very easy for converted prison inmates to backslide and fall away. So in all your ministry find ways to instill trust that will last beyond the prison walls.

Last, for another bit of interesting commentary, Doug said the mildest, kindest, and least troublesome inmates were pedophiles. Doug preferred working in prison areas like the laundry where prison authorities (at least in Florida) tended to put them so they would be less likely to be attacked by more violent inmates.

Sending you off with a silent prayer and a song to make you think about the folks to whom you will be ministering:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=aa0BUxOdLLQ
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Old 10-26-2018, 12:43 PM
 
Location: WV and Eastport, ME
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I'm going to jail


I'll run down the the hardware store to get a file and bake you a cake.

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serve for the next three years as Sunday School teachers to the inmates at the Salt Lake County Jail
Seriously, good luck with that. You'll probably learn a lot about human nature that would be hard to learn elsewhere.

(If you have trouble getting out, we could take up a collection ...)
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Old 10-26-2018, 04:48 PM
 
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O definitely katzpur.
They will give you a g6 to spread the prosperity gospel of despair.
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Old 10-26-2018, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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(If you have trouble getting out, we could take up a collection ...)
How gratifying! Somehow I knew I could count on your guys.
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Old 10-26-2018, 06:20 PM
 
Location: New England
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That justice according to the thoughts of men is not always fair, right or impartial.
To go into anything else would detract from this thread, but no one should be intimidated.

Indeed, one should listen and follow their own heart.
Hey Jer, don't know if you can identify with this, but i was in my local Portuguese bar a few backs and was talking to this guy who could trace his heritage back to the Mayflower(Said he was a descendant of William Bradford). This guy was maybe around 60 years of age served in the Marine Corps, never saw any action as such, he was found in possession of weed but would not snitch anyone and the power that be respectd that. What do you think?.
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