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Old 12-18-2018, 05:31 PM
 
Location: New England
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Matthew 6:1-2 is about "practicing righteousness before others", such as giving "alms" with the sound of trumpets. Your "alms" should be given in "secret" (Matthew 6:3). On the other hand, if one repents, confesses their sins, and does not produce good fruit, they will be "cut down" and "thrown into the fire" (Matthew 3:10). Give your alms, and "fast" in a way, not to be seen by men (Matthew 6:18). As for "sin", that is transgression of the Law (1 John 3:4), and "sin is lawlessness", the way of Paul. (Romans 7:6 & 19).
That is not what i was referring to. I was referring to Jesus calling the judgemental out by saying, listen, you who think you are not wicked because you don't commit adultery and commit murder and so forth, i have got news for you, if you want to judge another for what they have done i have news for you, if you have lusted after a woman or hated on anyone you are actually no different. So quit judging folk to be wicked sinners because they don't live u to your lists of do's and don'ts, because i will rip you a new one if you persist in it.
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Old 12-18-2018, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA
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Very interesting guys. Thanks.
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Old 12-19-2018, 04:27 AM
 
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That is not what i was referring to. I was referring to Jesus calling the judgemental out by saying, listen, you who think you are not wicked because you don't commit adultery and commit murder and so forth, i have got news for you, if you want to judge another for what they have done i have news for you, if you have lusted after a woman or hated on anyone you are actually no different. So quit judging folk to be wicked sinners because they don't live u to your lists of do's and don'ts, because i will rip you a new one if you persist in it.

You are talking about what is necessary to enter the kingdom of heaven, which is much stiffer that what the Pharisees keep. That has to do with Matthew 5:20, and not Matthew 6. It is the "few" that enter into "life" via the kingdom of heaven. The "many" follow the "false prophets" of Matthew 7:13 & 15 on the broad path to "destruction". Yeshua's message was that one must "repent" of their sins, and "sin no more", less something worse befalls you (John 14-15), which of course the followers of false prophet Paul reject.
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Old 12-19-2018, 04:43 AM
 
Location: New England
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You are talking about what is necessary to enter the kingdom of heaven, which is much stiffer that what the Pharisees keep. That has to do with Matthew 5:20, and not Matthew 6. It is the "few" that enter into "life" via the kingdom of heaven. The "many" follow the "false prophets" of Matthew 7:13 & 15 on the broad path to "destruction". Yeshua's message was that one must "repent" of their sins, and "sin no more", less something worse befalls you (John 14-15), which of course the followers of false prophet Paul reject.
No i am not, i am talking about a principle of righteousness, which is to see others how God sees them. Seeing beyond what "you think" is sin so you do not bring judgement upon it. So repent from bringing judgement down upon homosexuals who "you think" are wicked sinners.
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Old 12-19-2018, 05:06 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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You are talking about what is necessary to enter the kingdom of heaven, which is much stiffer that what the Pharisees keep. That has to do with Matthew 5:20, and not Matthew 6. It is the "few" that enter into "life" via the kingdom of heaven. The "many" follow the "false prophets" of Matthew 7:13 & 15 on the broad path to "destruction". Yeshua's message was that one must "repent" of their sins, and "sin no more", less something worse befalls you (John 14-15), which of course the followers of false prophet Paul reject.
You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.

-----------------------------John 5:39--40************************
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Old 12-19-2018, 05:32 AM
 
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You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.

-----------------------------John 5:39--40************************

These are the same Scriptures, unfolded by Yeshua, which your religion have deemed "obsolete" (Hebrews 8:13) You have turned instead to the babel/babble of the false prophet Paul. Good luck going down that road (Matthew 7:13). I would suggest that you heed the testimony of Yeshua (Matthew 7:24) and keep the commandments to enter into life (Matthew 19:17).
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Old 12-19-2018, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Up North
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You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.

-----------------------------John 5:39--40************************
Are you saying Jews are "GOD"?
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Old 12-19-2018, 02:24 PM
 
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You are talking about what is necessary to enter the kingdom of heaven, which is much stiffer that what the Pharisees keep. That has to do with Matthew 5:20, and not Matthew 6. It is the "few" that enter into "life" via the kingdom of heaven. The "many" follow the "false prophets" of Matthew 7:13 & 15 on the broad path to "destruction". Yeshua's message was that one must "repent" of their sins, and "sin no more", less something worse befalls you (John 14-15), which of course the followers of false prophet Paul reject.
I wonder if the Pharisees kept, or rather 'did Not keep' by teaching their own traditions over Scripture - Matthew 15:9.
Besides repenting, Yeshua's message of Matthew 24:14; Acts1:8 involves telling others about God's kingdom of Daniel 2:44. Some to enter the kingdom of heaven, such as those who have the first or earlier resurrection of Rev. 20:6; 2:10.
However, the majority to be part of the humble meek people who will inherit the Earth as Jesus said at Matthew 5:5 when Jesus was referring to Psalm 37:9-11. Those who died before Jesus died (John 3:13) are Not heaven bound, but have the prospect of gaining ' everlasting life ' right here on Earth during Jesus' coming 1,000-year reign over Earth.
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Old 12-20-2018, 12:18 AM
 
Location: Panama City, FL
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Well, yeah, there's that. I think a lot of people see that, though. You ain't special Trout.
Well, he kind of is special, choosing to come to a place like this that is sometimes downright disgraceful and hang out with such a motley crew. Makes ya think!
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Old 12-20-2018, 01:07 AM
 
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To me one of the most misused and misunderstood passages of the bible is this:

28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

And, of course, the word erroneously translated as "hell" in that passage is actually the valley of Gehenna, not a place of eternal torment.
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