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Old 12-23-2018, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA
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Originally Posted by Mike555 View Post
If you reject the apostolic teachings and think you are worshiping in truth, you are deceiving yourselves. If you mix new age beliefs with Christianity, you are being deceived.
Who is rejecting the apostles' teaching?
All Jesus, himself, ever did, for pete's sake, was point to the Father.
That's all I see pcamps and I are doing. No?
I'm following what the Bible says...it pointed the way...ok...now I walk it...and am very happy doing so.
I don't worship the Guide book, that's the only point we have been circling, right?
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Old 12-23-2018, 07:14 PM
 
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Who is rejecting the apostles' teaching?
A number of people on this forum reject the apostolic teachings to varying degrees.

Do you believe that Jesus died on the cross to pay the penalty for our sins?

Do you believe that you must place your faith in Jesus in order to be saved from the lake of fire?

Do you believe that Jesus is God as the Bible says?

Do you believe that Jesus was physically and bodily resurrected on the third day after His crucifixion?

Do you believe that to be absent from the body is to be at home with the Lord who is at the right hand of the Father in heaven? And I'm talking about physical death.

Do you believe that the believer is going to be physically and bodily resurrected?

Do you believe that Jesus is going to physically return to the earth and establish His kingdom on the earth?

These are examples of apostolic teachings. To the extent that a person doesn't believe these and other teachings, that person rejects the apostolic teachings.

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All Jesus, himself, ever did, for pete's sake, was point to the Father.
That's all I see pcamps and I are doing. No?
I'm following what the Bible says...it pointed the way...ok...now I walk it...and am very happy doing so.
I don't worship the Guide book, that's the only point we have been circling, right?
Respecting and believing what is written in the Bible is not worshiping the Bible. But that is an accusation that people who have a low view of the Bible like to made regarding those who have a high view of it.
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Old 12-23-2018, 07:41 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Mike555 View Post
A number of people on this forum reject the apostolic teachings to varying degrees.

Do you believe that Jesus died on the cross to pay the penalty for our sins?

Do you believe that you must place your faith in Jesus in order to be saved from the lake of fire?

Do you believe that Jesus is God as the Bible says?

Do you believe that Jesus was physically and bodily resurrected on the third day after His crucifixion?

Do you believe that to be absent from the body is to be at home with the Lord who is at the right hand of the Father in heaven? And I'm talking about physical death.

Do you believe that the believer is going to be physically and bodily resurrected?

Do you believe that Jesus is going to physically return to the earth and establish His kingdom on the earth?

These are examples of apostolic teachings. To the extent that a person doesn't believe these and other teachings, that person rejects the apostolic teachings.



Respecting and believing what is written in the Bible is not worshiping the Bible. But that is an accusation that people who have a low view of the Bible like to made regarding those who have a high view of it.
Which is the other gospel? The one that supports ... Satan, hell, and eternal damnation?
Or, that which says, "He was sent to be the Savior of the world," meaning ALL humanity.

Your worship of the Penal Substitution theory and eternal damnation is based on a mistaken belief.
Simply put, what you follow is the syncretstic beliefs of those who have fallen away from the truth.
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Old 12-23-2018, 08:11 PM
 
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Which is the other gospel? The one that supports ... Satan, hell, and eternal damnation?
Or, that which says, "He was sent to be the Savior of the world," meaning ALL humanity.

Your worship of the Penal Substitution theory and eternal damnation is based on a mistaken belief.
Simply put, what you follow is the syncretstic beliefs of those who have fallen away from the truth.
So you claim, without any evidence to back it. And empty assertions deserve no attention. And the apostles did not fall away from the truth.

Last edited by Mike555; 12-23-2018 at 08:23 PM..
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Old 12-23-2018, 09:05 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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Originally Posted by Mike555 View Post
A number of people on this forum reject the apostolic teachings to varying degrees.

Do you believe that Jesus died on the cross to pay the penalty for our sins?

Do you believe that you must place your faith in Jesus in order to be saved from the lake of fire?

Do you believe that Jesus is God as the Bible says?

Do you believe that Jesus was physically and bodily resurrected on the third day after His crucifixion?

Do you believe that to be absent from the body is to be at home with the Lord who is at the right hand of the Father in heaven? And I'm talking about physical death.

Do you believe that the believer is going to be physically and bodily resurrected?

Do you believe that Jesus is going to physically return to the earth and establish His kingdom on the earth?

These are examples of apostolic teachings. To the extent that a person doesn't believe these and other teachings, that person rejects the apostolic teachings.



Respecting and believing what is written in the Bible is not worshiping the Bible. But that is an accusation that people who have a low view of the Bible like to made regarding those who have a high view of it.
I don't believe any of those things. Because I think they're stupid.
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Old 12-23-2018, 09:11 PM
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Preach, Mike555!
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Old 12-23-2018, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA
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Respecting and believing what is written in the Bible is not worshiping the Bible.
Well, good. Have you said that before and a bunch of people missed it?
Also, what would be your beef with Mike since he has said that, pcamps...or Jerwade ?
I must admit I was late to this, so I'm not up on this whole back-and-forth thing...stepped in late.
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Old 12-23-2018, 10:01 PM
 
Location: planet earth
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To answer the OP:

A bunch of craziness, meanness, lawlessness, prejudice, bigotry, classism, et al.
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Old 12-24-2018, 02:27 AM
 
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Who is rejecting the apostles' teaching?
All Jesus, himself, ever did, for pete's sake, was point to the Father.
That's all I see pcamps and I are doing. No?
I'm following what the Bible says...it pointed the way...ok...now I walk it...and am very happy doing so.
I don't worship the Guide book, that's the only point we have been circling, right?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike555 View Post
A number of people on this forum reject the apostolic teachings to varying degrees.

Do you believe that Jesus died on the cross to pay the penalty for our sins?

Do you believe that you must place your faith in Jesus in order to be saved from the lake of fire?

Do you believe that Jesus is God as the Bible says?

Do you believe that Jesus was physically and bodily resurrected on the third day after His crucifixion?

Do you believe that to be absent from the body is to be at home with the Lord who is at the right hand of the Father in heaven? And I'm talking about physical death.

Do you believe that the believer is going to be physically and bodily resurrected?

Do you believe that Jesus is going to physically return to the earth and establish His kingdom on the earth?

These are examples of apostolic teachings. To the extent that a person doesn't believe these and other teachings, that person rejects the apostolic teachings.

Quote:
All Jesus, himself, ever did, for pete's sake, was point to the Father.
That's all I see pcamps and I are doing. No?
I'm following what the Bible says...it pointed the way...ok...now I walk it...and am very happy doing so.
I don't worship the Guide book, that's the only point we have been circling, right?
Respecting and believing what is written in the Bible is not worshiping the Bible. But that is an accusation that people who have a low view of the Bible like to made regarding those who have a high view of it.
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Originally Posted by Jerwade View Post
Which is the other gospel? The one that supports ... Satan, hell, and eternal damnation?
Or, that which says, "He was sent to be the Savior of the world," meaning ALL humanity.

Your worship of the Penal Substitution theory and eternal damnation is based on a mistaken belief.
Simply put, what you follow is the syncretstic beliefs of those who have fallen away from the truth.
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Quote:
Respecting and believing what is written in the Bible is not worshiping the Bible.
Well, good. Have you said that before and a bunch of people missed it?
Also, what would be your beef with Mike since he has said that, pcamps...or Jerwade ?
I must admit I was late to this, so I'm not up on this whole back-and-forth thing...stepped in late.
I believe he was responding to your post about not worshiping the guide book?
If, you want to know what I said, you can read it for yourself (above your post).
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Old 12-24-2018, 02:51 AM
 
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Which is the other gospel? The one that supports ... Satan, hell, and eternal damnation?
Or, that which says, "He was sent to be the Savior of the world," meaning ALL humanity.

Your worship of the Penal Substitution theory and eternal damnation is based on a mistaken belief.
Simply put, what you follow is the syncretstic beliefs of those who have fallen away from the truth.
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So you claim, without any evidence to back it. And empty assertions deserve no attention. And the apostles did not fall away from the truth.
I wasn't referring to the apostles, and you know that.
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