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Old 01-04-2019, 04:51 PM
 
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Did you know the mark God put on Cain when he was banished into the land of Nod was the imprint of himself?. The idea is we enter the land of Nod and we keep focused on the mark until we come to the realization and wake in this life of the land of Nod, that God was always present and abundantly available to be called up on. I wll never leave you nor forsake was not something God decided to impress on man years after he created us. Even in the cursed state God is there. Hope that makes you feel better jimmie about all your loved ones who pass and don't believe your beliefs about God.

Of cause this is just Camps just making it up as he goes along.
I find the names are interesting

Cain (lance, spear) kills Abel (emptiness, vanity) went to nod (wandering, exile) and Seth is the replacement

CAIN = H7013

From H6969 in the original sense of fixity; a lance (as striking fast): - spear.

ABEL H1892



From H1891; emptiness or vanity; figuratively something transitory and unsatisfactory; often used as an adverb: - X altogether, vain, vanity.




NOD = H5112

From H5110; exile: - wandering.

SETH = H8352

From H7896; put, that is, substituted; Sheth, third son of Adam: - Seth, Sheth.
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Old 01-04-2019, 04:56 PM
 
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I have no doubt that what people follow is the Church and the ministers of the hell doctrines, not Christ Jesus himself.
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Old 01-04-2019, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Somerset, KY
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Did you know the mark God put on Cain when he was banished into the land of Nod was the imprint of himself?. The idea is we enter the land of Nod and we keep focused on the mark until we come to the realization and wake in this life of the land of Nod, that God was always present and abundantly available to be called up on. I wll never leave you nor forsake was not something God decided to impress on man years after he created us. Even in the cursed state God is there. Hope that makes you feel better jimmie about all your loved ones who pass and don't believe your beliefs about God.

Of cause this is just Camps just making it up as he goes along.
That's an interesting take. Genesis does say that the mark was put there to protect Cain.

I think I like it.
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Old 01-05-2019, 08:27 AM
 
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The Father forsaking Jesus on the cross is backed up by this passage.

Galatians 3:13

“Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”
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The Father forsaking Jesus on the cross is backed up by this passage.

Galatians 3:13

“Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”
I assume you are referring to the "curse" Christ became and not the "curse" of the Law. Therefore I shall only respond to that portion of the verse you give. I can also explain that "the curse of the Law" is not saying God's Law is a curse, but for now will deal with Christ's becoming a curse.

Paul did not say that God made His Son a curse. He said Christ was made a curse (Gal 3:13), but he didn't say it was by God. But who made Him a curse? Those who "hung" Him! The Law stated that everyone hanged on a tree is cursed of God (Deut 21:23). But these people did not utilize the Law of God. They pretended to be God's servants doing God's work (John 8:41; 16:2). Therefore their pretending to uphold the Law of God was their making Christ a curse by "hanging Him on a tree." That's why Paul didn't say Christ was accursed by God. Christ was made a curse by the "law" of man. Not the Law of God! They had to get the Romans to kill against even their will (John 19:40.

He was a blessing to those that were redeemed by His death and resurrection. But He was a curse to His enemies who would not have Him to rule over them (Luke 19:27). Those that had Him crucified, i.e., the Jews who lost the Kingdom (Mat 21:43) because of Him. Therefore they pretending to be doing the work of God (John 16:2). But they were not doing God's work in the sense they were fulfilling the Law of God. They were executing Christ under man's "law", which is no "law."

Paul said that Christ was made a curse because of those He redeemed. He was! His enemies railroaded Him into a kangaroo trial under the pretense they were doing God's work thereby making Him a curse to their illegal "law." In so doing He was made a curse to them because they were decimated in 70 A.D. among other things. After all Paul did say did say quite the opposite when he said Christ was a blessing (Tit 2:13).
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