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Old 11-03-2018, 04:16 PM
Status: "Living rent-free in Mr. Wade’s head" (set 1 day ago)
 
Location: Walt Disney World
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So what? The fact that we humans act badly does not equate to us needing forgiveness from a possible creator. Humans are emotional beings. Animals are emotional beings.
I bet you believe we should ask forgiveness from each other, right? Why you would reject the same toward our creator, I don’t understand.
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Old 11-03-2018, 07:18 PM
 
Location: New England
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I bet you believe we should ask forgiveness from each other, right? Why you would reject the same toward our creator, I don’t understand.
The world would be a far better place just letting things go. I think the greater one is the one who does not hold another unforgiven until they ask for forgiveness. Have you ever seen what it does to folk holding unforgiveness in their hearts?. It’s not a pretty sight, not only that, you are also owned by the offender too.
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Old 11-03-2018, 07:23 PM
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The world would be a far better place just letting things go. I think the greater one is the one who does not hold another unforgiven until they ask for forgiveness. Have you ever seen what it does to folk holding unforgiveness in their hearts?. It’s not a pretty sight, not only that, you are also owned by the offender too.
Sure for us humans, but does God just “let it go”?
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Old 11-03-2018, 07:29 PM
 
Location: New England
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Sure for us humans, but does God just “let it go”?
Well, no wonder he always appeared mad in the OT if that is the case . You really believe God holding grudges will not have an effect on him. What you are saying is God cannot be touched by wrong action on his behalf.

Which is easier: to say, 'Your sins are forgiven,' or to say, 'Get up and walk ? Would you have said “get up and walk” to this question ?..
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Old 11-03-2018, 07:31 PM
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Why I Reject Forgiveness Culture – STIR Journal
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Old 11-03-2018, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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I bet you believe we should ask forgiveness from each other, right? Why you would reject the same toward our creator, I don’t understand.
Forgiveness for what? If he created us flawed, he should ask our forgiveness.
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Old 11-04-2018, 05:51 AM
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Forgiveness for what? If he created us flawed, he should ask our forgiveness.
He created us with free will. What other option was there?
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Old 11-04-2018, 06:01 AM
 
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He created us with free will. What other option was there?
With a design fault that holds you not the designer accountable?. Only in the mind of a bible believing christian would such a thing fly.
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Old 11-04-2018, 06:08 AM
 
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Thanks for posting that. I don't like it when people try and force a victim toward a goal in a certain way. I think it further takes away their sense of self. Also forgiveness can mean different things to a person. To me it looks like understanding why that person behaved they way the did or do. Without that understanding I couldn't have forgiven my mother. When I say forgiven I mean I can understand how that would happen not that I'm releasing them of responsibility.
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Old 11-04-2018, 06:25 AM
 
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What other option was there?
One tree in the garden that had innumerable healthy choices so that Adam and Eve had nothing else to consider. He did this with the rest of creation. Look at the heavens, the oceans, and the world itself, there’s an innumerable abundance in all of it. The Christian answer to the fall still falls(pardon the pun) short.
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