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Old 11-06-2018, 11:26 PM
 
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Jesus never aligned himself - or partnered with - political leaders. That speaks volumes.

On the other side of the coin, the folks who clashed with Jesus the most (the Sandhedrin, Pharisees, Saducees, etc.) all mixed high religious position with politics.

Looking at either Jesus' preference, and what he shunned, it's easy to see how we are to conduct ourselves.
You are forgetting about Apostle paul, John the Baptist, etc..There is hardly any prophets who are not defined by their active opposition to their leaders. No excuses, there is a responsibility to go much further than discuss polities in the last days. It is part of our calling in the last days.
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Old 11-07-2018, 06:33 AM
 
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The prayed-for candidate lost.
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Old 11-07-2018, 07:34 AM
 
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The prayed-for candidate lost.
Oh, I just came here to ask.
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Old 11-07-2018, 08:48 AM
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The prayed-for candidate lost.
There IS a God!!

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Old 11-10-2018, 06:18 PM
 
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I think it's kind of creepy.
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Old 11-10-2018, 06:40 PM
 
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At church this morning, the pastor called up one member (who I'd never met before) who is apparently a very active member. The pastor mentioned that the member is running for political office, named the office, and then gave a long prayer for the member.

The pastor never said, "vote for this person" or "this person is the best"; the prayer was more like, "may God be with this person in his daily walk", and it was a prayer that could be given for any person in the congregation.

Relatives of the member's opponent also attend the church, although not that service, and the opponent does not attend the church.

This seemed strange to me; it wasn't an express endorsement, but it was still free publicity and and a clear sign that the member is "one of us", and the campaign and office were mentioned. I looked up the member's campaign website and would now vote for him.


Is the pastor's action out of line? I think so. Or of it's not out of line, it sure comes close. (The member who was prayed for is NOT a Republican--he is running against a Republican.)

What would you think if your pastor did this?
No violation of any laws by doing that. But it's not something I'd appreciate in my church.
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Old 11-10-2018, 09:32 PM
 
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No, you didn't read the post.


Never did I ask if this is an IRS violation.

I did read the post.

What problem would you see if not a problem with the tax exemption 501c3 thing?

I mean, you're speaking as if some law was broken.
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Old 11-11-2018, 06:08 AM
 
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I did read the post.

What problem would you see if not a problem with the tax exemption 501c3 thing?

I mean, you're speaking as if some law was broken.
Offending members.

Turning the pastor into someone who takes sides in non-church things and without a Biblical basis.

Wasting valuable time during a service.

Etc., etc., etc.
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Old 11-11-2018, 06:17 AM
 
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What would you think if your pastor did this?

If the religious leader of my church, synagogue, mosque or temple did this I would shop for a new place of worship asap.


Totally out of line, or should be in the U.S.A.
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Old 11-12-2018, 06:28 PM
 
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If the religious leader of my church, synagogue, mosque or temple did this I would shop for a new place of worship asap.


Totally out of line, or should be in the U.S.A.
Just curious. Does that apply to both parties? I see members of one party do it all the time -- in fact, candidates will often be allowed to take the morning worship hour and speak. Personally, I find that wrong. I don't care what party or what church....I don't want my church allowing a candidate to speak.
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