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Old 11-25-2018, 02:35 AM
 
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Which, of course, has nothing to do with the practice of separating meat and dairy, which no one is going to explain in any rational way simply because it is a solecism of a parochial religion. Fine with me, fascinating tradition,but don't tell me it is mandated by God.
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Old 11-25-2018, 12:13 PM
 
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Which, of course, has nothing to do with the practice of separating meat and dairy, which no one is going to explain in any rational way simply because it is a solecism of a parochial religion. Fine with me, fascinating tradition,but don't tell me it is mandated by God.
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Old 11-25-2018, 01:48 PM
 
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Which, of course, has nothing to do with the practice of separating meat and dairy, which no one is going to explain in any rational way simply because it is a solecism of a parochial religion. Fine with me, fascinating tradition, but don't tell me it is mandated by God.
Simple, yet profound.
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Old 11-26-2018, 12:28 PM
 
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Which, of course, has nothing to do with the practice of separating meat and dairy, which no one is going to explain in any rational way simply because it is a solecism of a parochial religion. Fine with me, fascinating tradition,but don't tell me it is mandated by God.
I don't sit around deciding God's laws, neither do you. There is a very good reason for dietary laws, being that you don't know that reason doesn't mean there isn't a reason. Either way, all the laws have a very good spiritual reason, and God didn't just make a random law for no reason.
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Old 11-26-2018, 02:29 PM
 
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I don't sit around deciding God's laws, neither do you. There is a very good reason for dietary laws, being that you don't know that reason doesn't mean there isn't a reason. Either way, all the laws have a very good spiritual reason, and God didn't just make a random law for no reason.
Agreed, so thinking God made a law that really does NOT make any sense is dead wrong. It is precisely trying to implement a law WITHOUT taking the reason into account that made for the strange situyation we are talking about. Find out what Maimonedes had to say about the mitzvah, then get back to me.
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Old 11-26-2018, 02:49 PM
 
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I don't sit around deciding God's laws, neither do you. There is a very good reason for dietary laws, being that you don't know that reason doesn't mean there isn't a reason. Either way, all the laws have a very good spiritual reason, and God didn't just make a random law for no reason.
I think that not boiling/seething/maturing a “kid” in milk has more to do with a kid will drink its mother’s milk for a season until they are able to eat there own food.... the same as people. The same principle spiritually

1Pe 2:1 Then laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil words,
1Pe 2:2 as newborn babes desire the pure soul-nourishing milk, that you may grow by it;
1Pe 2:3 if indeed you "tasted" "that the Lord is good;" LXX-Psa. 33:9; MT-Psa. 34:8
1Pe 2:4 to whom having drawn near, a living Stone, indeed having been rejected by men, but chosen by God, precious;
1Pe 2:5 you also as living stones are being built a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 Because of this, it is also contained in the Scripture: "Behold," I lay in Zion" an elect, "precious Stone," "a Corner-foundation;" "and the one believing in Him shall not be ashamed, never!" Isa. 28:16
1Pe 2:7 Then to you who believe belongs the preciousness. But to disobeying ones, He is the "Stone which those building rejected; this One became the Head of the Corner," Psa. 118:22
1Pe 2:8 and a Stone-of-stumbling, and a Rock-of-offense" to the ones stumbling, being disobedient to the Word, to which they were also appointed. Isa. 8:14
1Pe 2:9 But you are "an elect race," "a royal priesthood," "a holy nation," "a people for possession," so that "you may openly speak of the virtues" of the One who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; LXX-Ex. 23:22; MT-Ex. 19:5, 6
1Pe 2:10 you who then were "not a people, but now are the people" of God; "the one not pitied then but now pitied." Hos. 1:6, 9 2:1, 23
1Pe 2:11 Beloved, I exhort you as pilgrims and strangers to abstain from fleshly lusts which war against the soul;
1Pe 2:12 having your behavior good among the nations, in that which they speak against you as evildoers; by observing your good works, they may glorify God in a day of visitation.
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Old 11-26-2018, 08:01 PM
 
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Agreed, so thinking God made a law that really does NOT make any sense is dead wrong. It is precisely trying to implement a law WITHOUT taking the reason into account that made for the strange situation we are talking about. Find out what Maimonides had to say about the mitzvah, then get back to me.
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Old 12-02-2018, 07:52 AM
 
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Agreed, so thinking God made a law that really does NOT make any sense is dead wrong. It is precisely trying to implement a law WITHOUT taking the reason into account that made for the strange situyation we are talking about. Find out what Maimonedes had to say about the mitzvah, then get back to me.
What Mitzvah would that be?..
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Old 12-02-2018, 08:21 AM
 
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Which, of course, has nothing to do with the practice of separating meat and dairy, which no one is going to explain in any rational way simply because it is a solecism of a parochial religion. Fine with me, fascinating tradition,but don't tell me it is mandated by God.
Some Jewish authorities give reasons for this prohibition. One reason given is, that it is cruel to cook a baby in the very milk that was intended to nourish it. The Torah forbids the cooking and consumption of any milk with any meat to prevent one from cooking a kid in its mother's milk. - https://www.jccmb.com/templates/arti...k-and-Meat.htm
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Old 12-02-2018, 09:06 AM
 
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What Mitzvah would that be?..
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Which, of course, has nothing to do with the practice of separating meat and dairy, which no one is going to explain in any rational way simply because it is a solecism of a parochial religion. Fine with me, fascinating tradition,but don't tell me it is mandated by God.
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Some Jewish authorities give reasons for this prohibition. One reason given is, that it is cruel to cook a baby in the very milk that was intended to nourish it. The Torah forbids the cooking and consumption of any milk with any meat to prevent one from cooking a kid in its mother's milk. - https://www.jccmb.com/templates/arti...k-and-Meat.htm
That one.

Cruelty is a matter of intent, not accident and the idea that one could accidently be cruel to a slaughtered calf is as ridiculous on examination as the very separation of meat from dairy in order to accidentally violate a rule. Maimonides made a clear analysis that the original mitzvah was about the magical practices around them and the zealous pursuit of circumstances that might violate the specific action rather than participating in the magic turns the tradition into its own kind of magic.

Can you honestly say that you think this was God's intention?
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