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Old 12-02-2018, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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According to your logic, it would be ok to torture or do anything you wish to an animal you are about to kill.
No, Hanni, according to my logic it would be ok to torture or do anything you wish to an animal you have ALREADY killed... he probably won't mind at all.
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Old 12-02-2018, 08:59 PM
 
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Mind citing Maimonides?...
check: The most
frequently cited rationalization of the kid law as an Israelite
repudiation of paganism (again without specific reference to the
source of the milk) is in Maimonides’ Guide of the Perplexed
3.48:
Found in http://jewish-faculty.biu.ac.il/file...IJ5/cooper.pdf
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Old 12-03-2018, 01:07 AM
 
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FAITH in CHRIST ALONE through GRACE alone......a free gift given by Jesus......people with their pride have real trouble accepting a free gift.......but it eliminates all boasting and acknowledges who really is perfect and holy........that's JESUS...........

Believe the gospel of grace and spend eternity with the God of the universe.........
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Old 12-03-2018, 01:16 AM
 
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I don't sit around deciding God's laws, neither do you. There is a very good reason for dietary laws, being that you don't know that reason doesn't mean there isn't a reason. Either way, all the laws have a very good spiritual reason, and God didn't just make a random law for no reason.
Really. So it makes sense that a person would sit and be cold rather than turn up the thermostat on the Sabbath or flip a breaker switch to get the heater going again? Ore refuse to trip a light sensor. God really cares about that?
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Old 12-03-2018, 01:18 AM
 
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Some Jewish authorities give reasons for this prohibition. One reason given is, that it is cruel to cook a baby in the very milk that was intended to nourish it. The Torah forbids the cooking and consumption of any milk with any meat to prevent one from cooking a kid in its mother's milk. - https://www.jccmb.com/templates/arti...k-and-Meat.htm
But it goes further than that. Way further. Totally non-sensicle. I could never be a Jew.
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Really. So it makes sense that a person would sit and be cold rather than turn up the thermostat on the Sabbath or flip a breaker switch to get the heater going again? Ore refuse to trip a light sensor. God really cares about that?
The enemy came in one day on the Sabbath and began killing Jews, but those stubborn Jews were so loyal to their belief that they wouldn't take up arms on the Sabbath and so they stood there and died. This did change the way they thought but just to imagine such loyalty is magic. I think about those people all the time.

Reminds me of somebody else.

Jesus just stood there and did nothing when he could have killed them all.

Thank God the Jews were brave enough to continue in a culture the world hates them for, God's culture, they die for God.
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:29 PM
 
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But it goes further than that. Way further. Totally non-sensicle. I could never be a Jew.
Christianity has no logic, no reason, I would tell you that if you want to be great, sell all you own and give to the poor and go sit yourself down on a curb. If you catch somebody stealing a 20 from your purse, then reach in and give him 40. If somebody has persecuted you and done terrible things to you, buy him a coke and pray for him, don't call the police......

Logic and reason is logic and reason.

A person with loyalty to God isn't always logical, and some people just decide to do what God says to do even when it doesn't make sense to others.
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Old 12-03-2018, 02:12 PM
 
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Christianity has no logic, no reason, I would tell you that if you want to be great, sell all you own and give to the poor and go sit yourself down on a curb. If you catch somebody stealing a 20 from your purse, then reach in and give him 40. If somebody has persecuted you and done terrible things to you, buy him a coke and pray for him, don't call the police......

Logic and reason is logic and reason.

A person with loyalty to God isn't always logical, and some people just decide to do what God says to do even when it doesn't make sense to others.
Those are not laws we have to follow.

I don't care what they do until it infringes on other people. Like refusing to let planes take off unless/until everyone else caves into their notion of gender segregation.

Or putting women on the backs of buses. But I don't see any awesomeness in any of it.
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Old 12-03-2018, 02:17 PM
 
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Christianity has no logic, no reason
No religion does. I agree with that. If that is what you are saying. I am saying if I were shopping for a religion, I would NOT choose Orthodox Jewish. I could never buy into these inane rules. I also do not like that in a lot of cases, the spirit of the law gets lost in the letter.

Kosher meat, for instance. Using the blade in the way that is prescribed was due to that being the most humane way possible. Now, we have more humane ways but they stick to that regardless. Muslims have the same rule but are willing to allow stunning, to them that follows the reason behind the law, which is more logical. The object is being humane to the animal. That is what their religions teach them is God's intent.
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Old 12-03-2018, 02:19 PM
 
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The enemy came in one day on the Sabbath and began killing Jews, but those stubborn Jews were so loyal to their belief that they wouldn't take up arms on the Sabbath and so they stood there and died. This did change the way they thought but just to imagine such loyalty is magic. I think about those people all the time.

Reminds me of somebody else.

Jesus just stood there and did nothing when he could have killed them all.

Thank God the Jews were brave enough to continue in a culture the world hates them for, God's culture, they die for God.
I'm not sure that even makes sense. They are allowed to, actually commanded to. break the rules for the Sabbath if a life is in danger. In fact the rules on heat can be bent if someone is ill and needs heat. They can use the phone, break any Sabbath rule if a life is in danger and the action is required for that.
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