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Old 11-16-2018, 12:16 PM
 
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He would be sadistic...in OUR VIEW.


Gods ways are NOT our ways...maybe he is like this....what could we do about it though...a big fat nothing.
Try to put it out of our minds and demonize anyone that refers to it.
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Old 11-17-2018, 12:01 AM
 
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Ah, you meditate. If I may be so bold, with respect.
Forget all the Buddhist or Hindu or Christian ideas others have written about, if you can.
Aim, if that is the right word!...for a direct experience of this 'thing'...God, Source, Superior Spirit,
Creator, Presence...my favorite...the 'All That Is'...any logic, any concept of 'too egotistical' will drop away like a leaf in the Fall.


Yoga is about meditating on God/Vishnu while stretching. But sure, to force myself to ignorance would be an easy feat, but not one that I currently desire or am curious about. Even to deny logic might be desired bliss, I have an imagination, it wouldn't be hard.

The leaf burns up in the fire, but where did it go? Into nothing? It was neither created nor destroyed, it merely changed from one form to another. All of these concepts are anatta, i.e. interdependent, not stand-alone. There is no God without the unGod. There is no source without the sourced. There is no Superior Spirit without inferior spirits, no creator without not creating, no presence without absence. The infinite but singular all is always seen as nothing because there would be nothing to compare it to.
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Old 11-17-2018, 11:48 AM
 
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I have never posted an NDE here...I know not even Christians believe in them or past lives and lots of things.
This one was riveting for me.
I dunno why this happens to some people...I just figure
they ♫ 'must have done something good'.♫ *shrug*
I would seem this not believing in Jesus...doesn't send you to hell exactly. ...but one moment of
prayer can change everything.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59mRZ1Vj8ZU
Thanks. I'm Christian and I accept NDEs. They've been helpful in growing my faith. One of my close family members, who was also Christian, had one.
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Old 11-17-2018, 12:38 PM
 
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If hell were true (infinite suffering for finite crimes) then God would be the most sadistic freak ever imagined.
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Gods ways are NOT our ways...maybe he is like this....what could we do about it though...a big fat nothing.
If, you believe that love harms others, than it is YOUR WAY (thought, deeds and actions) that are not his way.
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Old 11-17-2018, 03:50 PM
 
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If, you believe that love harms others, than it is YOUR WAY (thought, deeds and actions) that are not his way.
Love does harm others, it's called jealousy and wrath. Both negative qualities of which are attested in the "not a letter of the law and prophecies shall be removed" part.
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Old 11-17-2018, 04:07 PM
 
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Love does harm others, it's called jealousy and wrath.
Both negative qualities of which are attested in the "not a letter of the law and prophecies shall be removed" part.
Well, I would say...."Wrong."...it's not love that harms...it's the ego....the birth place of jealousy, anger, impatience and hate....love is pure in it's essence.
Now this is something that can't be intellectualized or a philosophy made up about...it is
an experience that you simply "get".

Heart is heart...ego is ego.
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Old 11-17-2018, 04:27 PM
 
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Love does harm others, it's called jealousy and wrath. Both negative qualities of which are attested in the "not a letter of the law and prophecies shall be removed" part.
True love is not jealous or wrathful, what you are referencing is a construct of men.
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Old 11-17-2018, 05:24 PM
 
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True love is not jealous or wrathful, what you are referencing is a construct of men.
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Old 11-17-2018, 05:25 PM
 
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If, you believe that love harms others than it is YOUR WAY (thought, deeds, and actions) that are not his way.
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Old 11-17-2018, 05:49 PM
 
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how would you weaponize love? And the person never even realize they have been turned in a weapon?

the devil isn't stupid. If one believes in that kind of thing.
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