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Old 12-06-2018, 08:55 AM
 
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just because Jehovah God and Jesus created humans, didn't mean they wanted to control them. this is why humans and well as Angels were given free will. but they hoped that humans used it for the right reason ,(Gal. 5:13 For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another). on the other hand satan does control and have controlled some humans, by blinding them from the truth ,(2Cor. 4:4). he had even some of the Angels believing that they didn't need to obey Jehovah God, the Grand creator. he gets many to follow him by putting in their hearts..."it's all about me." Jesus told us to deny ourselves and follow him, (Luke 9:23). many of us follow satan's lead instead of Jesus, even if some of us refuse to believe or are NOT humble enough to admit it. first Jesus said he and his followers are NOT part of satan's world ,(John 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world).

and yes this is satan's world because Jehovah God allowed him to have it, since he messed it all up. we can see this because satan tried to temped Jesus by offering Jesus the kingdoms of the world if he do an act of worship to him ,(Matt. 4:8,9). satan makes his ways of the world seem more appealing to the imperfect flesh. more so than to those who at one time seen it that way. but later rejected them and turn to their spiritual side ,(1Cor. 6:9-11 Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality. or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God).

and NO, the Creator did NOT fail as some may see it. he's allowing satan to prove that he can turn ALL people away from him. just as satan tried with Jesus and faithful Job. just because he did, turn the first perfect couple away. also by him being a loving God, he allowing time for MANY to change from following satan, to following his Son, Jesus. Jehovah God's plan is to have what he first planned, which was a world of righteous humans ONLY who will soon live forever, (Matt. 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth). in which NO human would ever rule over another human ,(Dan.2:44). Jesus will be the ONLY world!... leader,(Rev. 19:16 And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written, "KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS." ). with other Heavenly being helping as kings and priest ,(Rev. 5:10 And has made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth). we all have time to change, if we want to. for those who choose not to, it's your world! peace
What is being ignored is that God created only 2 people. The balance of humanity were born and not created by God.

Next the resurrection will be the vast majority of the dead who will be given a chance to change as Satan will not be present to muck things up. Each makes a final choice, like Adam and Eve did, when Satan is let lose for a short period of time. How many will follow him is unknown so minority or majority is not known thus a non issue.

Hell of course does not prevail as it is emptied and tossed into the lake of Fire indicating gone forever.
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Old 12-06-2018, 09:17 AM
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What is being ignored is that God created only 2 people. The balance of humanity were born and not created by God.

Next the resurrection will be the vast majority of the dead who will be given a chance to change as Satan will not be present to muck things up. Each makes a final choice, like Adam and Eve did, when Satan is let lose for a short period of time. How many will follow him is unknown so minority or majority is not known thus a non issue.

Hell of course does not prevail as it is emptied and tossed into the lake of Fire indicating gone forever.
What some people believe is truly astounding.
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Old 12-06-2018, 09:37 AM
 
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What is being ignored is that God created only 2 people. The balance of humanity were born and not created by God.

Next the resurrection will be the vast majority of the dead who will be given a chance to change as Satan will not be present to muck things up. Each makes a final choice, like Adam and Eve did, when Satan is let lose for a short period of time. How many will follow him is unknown so minority or majority is not known thus a non issue.

Hell of course does not prevail as it is emptied and tossed into the lake of Fire indicating gone forever.

so all of humanity began with incestuous relationships...

Not to mention the fact that Adam and (St)Eve only had boys...
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Old 12-06-2018, 09:58 AM
 
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so all of humanity began with incestuous relationships...

Not to mention the fact that Adam and (St)Eve only had boys...
Eve was a baby factory until she spit out some more girls/baby factories for the boys to breed with.

Wonder how they decided who was going to bump uglies with who?
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:30 PM
 
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so all of humanity began with incestuous relationships...

Not to mention the fact that Adam and (St)Eve only had boys...
You obviously never read even the first chapters in the in the Bible book of Genesis, indicating your replies are not of much value in a discussion on what they say..
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:42 PM
 
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Eve was a baby factory until she spit out some more girls/baby factories for the boys to breed with.

Wonder how they decided who was going to bump uglies with who?
Each one was born with itís mate...
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Old 12-06-2018, 05:49 PM
 
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Each one was born with it’s mate...
Really? Or nope

Are you saying that we’re born breading twins?
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:01 PM
 
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Each one was born with itís mate...
What do you mean?
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:37 PM
 
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What is being ignored is that God created only 2 people. The balance of humanity were born and not created by God.

Next the resurrection will be the vast majority of the dead who will be given a chance to change as Satan will not be present to muck things up. Each makes a final choice, like Adam and Eve did, when Satan is let lose for a short period of time. How many will follow him is unknown so minority or majority is not known thus a non issue.

Hell of course does not prevail as it is emptied and tossed into the lake of Fire indicating gone forever.
I don't see it as only two people for it was mankind that evolved from the elements of the earth, not just two people. Or, there was a separate species that came here, and mated with the inhabitants, thus, we are that byproduct. And, I do not see the necessity of creating more adversity, once there is peace on the earth and goodwill to ALL men.

Apparently, the religious mindset continues to need its pound of flesh to condemn?

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Old 12-07-2018, 07:57 AM
 
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What do you mean?
Cain was born with his mate and Abel was born with his mate...
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