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Old 11-24-2018, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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God can make a mortal immortal though. So it is possible.
God was about to consummate a marriage at the mountain when they committed adultery. God would have impregnated all of them and the nation would have become a nation of kings and priests because they bore the sons of God, immortals. They chose adultery and God handed them over to their own hands and said,'' If you think you can bear an immortal son by your own hands, well here is the only way.''

That has always been the problem, the high priests were men. All of Israel had come up as brides, but what they had chosen was their own hands and so now instead of God consummating a marriage, you had men trying to be the male spirit in this relationship.

It was what they had chosen and because they had committed adultery, it changed everything. Because of their adultery, God said that the whole world would be filled with the knowledge of the Lord.

If we believe in Jesus, we say that Jesus came as the one true virgin who was submissive to the will of the father, and God consummated a marriage for the first time when we saw that veil rip in two as it is in a consummation with a virgin and a young man. Jesus was then planted in the womb of the Earth as all men are planted as seeds, but he had become the first born of many sons to follow into a new kingdom.
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Old 11-24-2018, 12:42 PM
 
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I believe it is a comparison to that which is set apart and/or cherished.
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The contrast in perceptions of what it means to be set aside for God's purposes is best illustrated in the parable of the Good Samaritan
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Holiness is not defined by wearing a particular priestly uniform, rather it's that of your thoughts, deeds and actions.


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Old 11-24-2018, 12:50 PM
 
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The contrast in perceptions of what it means to be set aside for God's purposes is best illustrated in the parable of the Good Samaritan
It is not that general, a Samaritan is the worst enemy there ever was to Judah. A Samaritan is a person from a long line of people who always tried to claim that they were the true seed of God instead of Hebrews, instead of Isaac, instead of Jacob, and instead of Judah.

Christians with a replacement mentality are doing the same thing all the Gentiles had done before them. Jesus met that woman at the well, and she flat out lied right there and then. She said her father Israel had built that well when her father was certainly not Israel, those Samaritans claimed to be the New Israel replacing the true seed of God. You can't take the parabale of the good Samaritan to apply it to anyone who does something good, we are talking about an evil people who are the worst enemy to the Jewish people there ever was, but the whole world takes this parable out of context, and the true meaning is hidden. A Samaritan is strictly a Gentile, and the good deed is STRICTLY TO JUDAH. You can't call a nice person a good Samaritan without a Jew being the one who is helped.
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Old 11-24-2018, 01:14 PM
 
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A good Samaritan will help you, if you are beaten and left on the other side of the road.
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Old 11-24-2018, 01:19 PM
 
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It is not that general, a Samaritan is the worst enemy there ever was to Judah. A Samaritan is a person from a long line of people who always tried to claim that they were the true seed of God instead of Hebrews, instead of Isaac, instead of Jacob, and instead of Judah.

Christians with a replacement mentality are doing the same thing all the Gentiles had done before them. Jesus met that woman at the well, and she flat out lied right there and then. She said her father Israel had built that well when her father was certainly not Israel, those Samaritans claimed to be the New Israel replacing the true seed of God. You can't take the parabale of the good Samaritan to apply it to anyone who does something good, we are talking about an evil people who are the worst enemy to the Jewish people there ever was, but the whole world takes this parable out of context, and the true meaning is hidden. A Samaritan is strictly a Gentile, and the good deed is STRICTLY TO JUDAH. You can't call a nice person a good Samaritan without a Jew being the one who is helped.
Well you have it right that any religion that has a universal basis is the enemy of any parocial religion. Which is more appropriate to the general population is not really up for question.
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Old 11-24-2018, 01:27 PM
 
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What is the kingdom of heaven?

It is Ephraim and Judah, and this is why every parable concerns Ephraim and Judah. Messiah comes bringing a covenant to Ephraim and Judah, and this is flesh and spirit respectively. Messiah comes taking the Gentiles of Ephraim and the Jews of Judah to make one single man.

YOU are that one single man, Ephraim of the flesh, and Judah in the spirit and this is the kingdom of heaven. The man ln the west, and the man of the east.

We follow the desires of the flesh by letting Ephraim rule over Judah just as Cain kills the spiritual hidden man within, we choose darkness over light, and there has always been two names to represent the flesh and the spirit just as there is Ishmael and Isaac, Jacob and Esau, there is always the first born life that we live in the flesh right now, and then there is our next life.

Every parable concerns Ephraim and Judah because that is what we are, that is the kingdom of heaven consisting of two kingdoms and a city of peace between the two.......''A man had two sons.'' God has two sons, and that is the kingdom.

Every parable concerns the two sons of God and the 3 main feasts of the Temple, and because we are the temple, the comings and goings of the temple concern our evolution and what we are in flesh and spirit.

All of the book of Revelation and all of the parables are about Ephraim and Judah because that is what we are, the kingdom of heaven, the problem being is that there are two kingdoms because there are two kings, an evil kingdom and a righteous kingdom and it is kingdom against Kingdom.

Therein lies our problem, how will we ever make the flesh completely submissive to the spirit, or should the spirit submit to the flesh?

The parables teach a person how to completely submit to the will of the spirit.

If you want something to come true in the spirit, you make it true in the flesh. When Ephraim submits to Judah, miracles happen.
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Old 11-24-2018, 01:39 PM
 
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God was about to consummate a marriage at the mountain when they committed adultery. God would have impregnated all of them and the nation would have become a nation of kings and priests because they bore the sons of God, immortals. They chose adultery and God handed them over to their own hands and said,'' If you think you can bear an immortal son by your own hands, well here is the only way.''

That has always been the problem, the high priests were men. All of Israel had come up as brides, but what they had chosen was their own hands and so now instead of God consummating a marriage, you had men trying to be the male spirit in this relationship.

It was what they had chosen and because they had committed adultery, it changed everything. Because of their adultery, God said that the whole world would be filled with the knowledge of the Lord.

If we believe in Jesus, we say that Jesus came as the one true virgin who was submissive to the will of the father, and God consummated a marriage for the first time when we saw that veil rip in two as it is in a consummation with a virgin and a young man. Jesus was then planted in the womb of the Earth as all men are planted as seeds, but he had become the first born of many sons to follow into a new kingdom.
That is the way a man thinks.

Whoever has seen the Son has seen the Father so as it is written he who has seen the Father comes from God.

He who comes from God is immortal and the wise shall live forever in the kingdom of their Father.
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Old 11-24-2018, 01:40 PM
 
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Holiness is not defined by wearing a particular priestly uniform, rather it's that of your thoughts, deeds and actions.
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Old 11-24-2018, 01:52 PM
 
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I thought it was interesting when I looked up the Koine Greek word for "holy", hagios in Strongs, the notes in the etymology section included this:

thalpo
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to warm, keep warm
to cherish with tender love, to foster with tender care

That, to me, is exactly what "holy" is/does.

Also, hagios is the same word translated as "saints" and is used in the phrase "Holy Spirit" and "Holy of holies" which is where God was said to dwell in the Temple.

"Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you?"
"Christ dwells in you."

You, are the Holy of Holies. You, are the holiness of God [love and tender care] incarnated.

The language of what the Christians call the Old Testament is Hebrew, and Jesus spoke Aramaic. What about these primary Biblical languages, what is their etymology for these terms?
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Old 11-24-2018, 02:01 PM
 
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That is the way a man thinks.

Whoever has seen the Son has seen the Father so as it is written he who has seen the Father comes from God.

He who comes from God is immortal and the wise shall live forever in the kingdom of their Father.
You have seen the son? You are speaking in a very general way, but the first Gentile converts were not in general, they converted to a specific religion, the same religion Jesus walked in. If people are not walking in the same religion Jesus came walking in, they tend to speak in a very general way.
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