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Old 12-16-2018, 07:22 PM
 
Location: the Kingdom of His dear Son
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Those of Matthew 12:32 were saved, but become un-saved when they fell away.
Dear Matthew: I want to wish you well in your enduring: Go Matthew go!

"Un- saved" sounds like a precarious experience. Perhaps you need to get rid of your present god and allow the Living God to touch you. You will be amazed at how being "un-saved" is absolutely impossible!

The all from Him, the all through Him, the all for Him.
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Old 12-16-2018, 10:29 PM
 
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Apparently Westcott knew more than Jesus knew, because at Matthew 24:13 Jesus makes it clear that one must endure to the end in order to be saved.
True, we can be in a 'saved condition' but that does Not guarantee on could Not fall away. - 1st Cor. 9:27.
Those of Matthew 12:32 were saved, but become un-saved when they fell away.

So, either we endure faithful to death, or endure faithful to the coming ' time of separation ' on Earth as per Matthew 25:31-33,37,40. Notice only the figurative living humble ' sheep ' are considered or counted as righteous ones.
They are the ones who are ' saved/delivered/rescued ' through the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14.
Before Jesus, as Prince of Peace, ushers in global Peace on Earth among persons of goodwill.
Prince of peace!!!

The son of man is the prince of peace. He is One with Jesus and the Father.

The son of man comes eating and drinking in the presence of the Lord.
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Old 12-17-2018, 05:18 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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Even if Jesus would never drive away, does Not mean the person himself can't do the driving away.
Those of Matthew 12:32 sure drove themselves away, Far away by committing the unforgivable sin.
So, the conditions, or going through the process of Zephaniah 2:3 need to be met.
But Jesus is ALWAYS with us...why do so many evangelicals get caught up in the letter of the law and not the spirit of forgiveness?\\And what is this UNFORGIVEABLE sin evangelicals KEEP TALKING about but never provide an example??
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