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Old 01-22-2019, 02:36 PM
 
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So, if the Tanakh is corrupted then So is the New Testament that is allegedly based on the Tanakh...
Yes
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Old 01-22-2019, 02:38 PM
 
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Some people don't understand that if you cancel out the old Testament, it cancels the New, and so why would we even be talking?
Nonsense!

Hebrews 8:13 King James Version (KJV)
13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
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Old 01-22-2019, 02:40 PM
 
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Some people don't understand that if you cancel out the old Testament, it cancels the New, and so why would we even be talking?
It’s not about cancelling the Old or New it is about understanding the what/when/why/how of the signs, times, seasons
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Old 01-22-2019, 03:10 PM
 
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Not so. The New Testament is based on reports of Christ's corrections about the True Nature of God and our relationship with Him. The New Covenant is based on the revelations and unambiguous demonstration of God's True Nature by Jesus at the expense of His body and life. His rebirth as Spirit removed the fear of physical death and provided us with a Comforter sent in His name to guide us to the Truth God has "written in our hearts."
However, people point to the Old Testament and it’s prophecies to prove the veracity of the New Testament...Therefore, If the Old is not accurate, as you claim, then neither is the New...
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Old 01-22-2019, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Nonsense!

Hebrews 8:13 King James Version (KJV)
13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
And when we quote this New covenant, it exists and is real to the people who are in the covenant. The law was written in the hearts of the lost house of Israel BECAUSE they rejected the covenant from the very beginning but Judah still walks with God.

LOL, The covenant is in Jeremiah 31 for all to see, it's not some mystery covenant about a mystery people, it is only to Ephraim and Judah and all the wishing in the world isn't going. to change that fact, God hasn't left anyone out, EVERYONE IS INVITED, BUT NOBODY CAN FORCE YOU, NOBODY CAN FORCE PILLAR.
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Old 01-22-2019, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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It’s not about cancelling the Old or New it is about understanding the what/when/why/how of the signs, times, seasons
It's about signs, times and seasons to Ephraim and Judah, an Eskimo can run around claiming he's a Texan all the way up North, but he wasn't born a Texan, and if he don't ever move to Texas, he is just running around claiming a silly thing.
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Old 01-22-2019, 06:57 PM
 
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Isaiah 56...
This right here is so freaking sad that I don't have the words. If they knew or could understand what was happening here right now, they would be embarrased.
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Old 01-22-2019, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Isaiah 56...
Christians have no idea how rare this is, and if they live to be 200 years old, they will never see the same offer from another Jew.

Isaiah 56 is the line of a Christian trying to convince an Othodox Jew, it is the Christians defense, and it's very moving to see a Jew offer it, and very sad that it is ALWAYS REJECTED.
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Old 01-22-2019, 07:23 PM
 
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It's about signs, times and seasons to Ephraim and Judah, an Eskimo can run around claiming he's a Texan all the way up North, but he wasn't born a Texan, and if he don't ever move to Texas, he is just running around claiming a silly thing.
It’s actually about Jerusalem
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Old 01-22-2019, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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It's about signs, times and seasons to Ephraim and Judah, an Eskimo can run around claiming he's a Texan all the way up North, but he wasn't born a Texan, and if he don't ever move to Texas, he is just running around claiming a silly thing.

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