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Notice in proverbs 2 Solomon is equating wisdom understanding, knowledge and commandments as God's word.
Jesus equates His commandments as His word in the Gospel of John. Notice below.
So the commandments are God's word. To keep God's word is to love Him.
Comments?
Proverbs 2
1 My child, if you accept my words and treasure up my commandments within you,
2 making your ear attentive to wisdom and inclining your heart to understanding;
3 if you indeed cry out for insight, and raise your voice for understanding;
4 if you seek it like silver, and search for it as for hidden treasures—
5 then you will understand the fear of the Lord and find the knowledge of God.
6 For the Lord gives wisdom; from his mouth come knowledge and understanding;
7 he stores up sound wisdom for the upright; he is a shield to those who walk blamelessly,
8 guarding the paths of justice and preserving the way of his faithful ones.
9 Then you will understand righteousness and justice and equity, every good path;
10 for wisdom will come into your heart, and knowledge will be pleasant to your soul;
11 prudence will watch over you; and understanding will guard you.
12 It will save you from the way of evil.....
John 12:
49 for I have not spoken on my own, but the Father who sent me has himself given me a commandment about what to say and what to speak.
50 And I know that his commandment is eternal life. What I speak, therefore, I speak just as the Father has told me."
John 14:
15 "If you love me, you will keep my commandments.
John 14:
21 They who have my commandments and keep them are those who love me; and those who love me will be loved by my Father, and I will love them and reveal myself to them."
John 15:
10 If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love.
John 14:
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, He who loves me will keep my words, and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him and dwell with him.
As we are called to worship God is spirit and it truth , through His spirit which commands us to keep the commandments and abide in His loves which means that we are called to love and forgive others which means not to judge others , see judging others is the work of demons , and legalism of the commands substitutes faith in God , so we worship faith through God`s spirit were we judge our self only is the wisdom through Christ ..
As we are called to worship God is spirit and it truth , through His spirit which commands us to keep the commandments and abide in His loves which means that we are called to love and forgive others which means not to judge others , see judging others is the work of demons , and legalism of the commands substitutes faith in God , so we worship faith through God`s spirit were we judge our self only is the wisdom through Christ ..
I don't know. It kind of seems Yeshua threw the money changers out of the Temple. He was also kind of harsh on the hypocrites, especially the Pharisees and scribes (Matthew 23:35). As for the "nations"/Gentiles, it appears the "Word of God" is going to come crashing down on their party (Revelation 19:13-15). As for "demon spirits", it seems the spirit of the "false prophet" was a "demon spirit" (Revelation 16:13-16). Watching the news, it seems that the "demon spirits" are over taking the "many" of the nation/Gentiles. All appears to be "babel", false witnessing, and lies. The "truth" seems to have been nailed to some pagan cross. Although the pope, the successor of the "worthless shepherd" (Zechariah 11:17), Peter, seems to put his failings (stealing his confessors cross) and spirit of his accusers onto the devil/demon spirits, I am thinking his accusers are simply calling for justice and fairness. As for judging others, I think the saying goes, as you judge others, so shall you be judged. It seems that Paul turned his slackers over to Satan, and his followers condemn the non believers to hell. I am thinking that that judgment his going to come back and bite them in the end.
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As we are called to worship God is spirit and it truth , through His spirit which commands us to keep the commandments and abide in His loves which means that we are called to love and forgive others which means not to judge others , see judging others is the work of demons , and legalism of the commands substitutes faith in God , so we worship faith through God`s spirit were we judge our self only is the wisdom through Christ ..
Yes to love and forgive. But Jesus said to judge. He actually sends His genuine followers to judge the world.
As in;
"Do not judge by appearances but judge righteously."
" I said you are gods, sons of the Most High. "..... "Rise up O god and judge the earth."
Notice in proverbs 2 Solomon is equating wisdom understanding, knowledge and commandments as God's word.
Jesus equates His commandments as His word in the Gospel of John. Notice below.
So the commandments are God's word. To keep God's word is to love Him.
Comments?
Proverbs 2
1 My child, if you accept my words and treasure up my commandments within you,
2 making your ear attentive to wisdom and inclining your heart to understanding;
3 if you indeed cry out for insight, and raise your voice for understanding;
4 if you seek it like silver, and search for it as for hidden treasures—
5 then you will understand the fear of the Lord and find the knowledge of God.
6 For the Lord gives wisdom; from his mouth come knowledge and understanding;
7 he stores up sound wisdom for the upright; he is a shield to those who walk blamelessly,
8 guarding the paths of justice and preserving the way of his faithful ones.
9 Then you will understand righteousness and justice and equity, every good path;
10 for wisdom will come into your heart, and knowledge will be pleasant to your soul;
11 prudence will watch over you; and understanding will guard you.
12 It will save you from the way of evil.....
John 12:
49 for I have not spoken on my own, but the Father who sent me has himself given me a commandment about what to say and what to speak.
50 And I know that his commandment is eternal life. What I speak, therefore, I speak just as the Father has told me."
John 14:
15 "If you love me, you will keep my commandments.
John 14:
21 They who have my commandments and keep them are those who love me; and those who love me will be loved by my Father, and I will love them and reveal myself to them."
John 15:
10 If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love.
John 14:
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, He who loves me will keep my words, and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him and dwell with him.
Most people don't know they are mandating a heaven DEVOID of people if we ALL have to keep the commandments perfectly. There would not be ONE human in heaven or the millenium if that were the case. NOT ONE. The plan of Jesus to have fellowship with His creation would have failed, and Jesus doesn't fail.
Romans 3: 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,
Verse 23 condemns everybody and verse 24 offers the solution.........anyone comprehend that?
Most people don't know they are mandating a heaven DEVOID of people if we ALL have to keep the commandments perfectly. There would not be ONE human in heaven or the millenium if that were the case. NOT ONE. The plan of Jesus to have fellowship with His creation would have failed, and Jesus doesn't fail.
Romans 3: 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,
Verse 23 condemns everybody and verse 24 offers the solution.........anyone comprehend that?
No. You misunderstand what keeping the commandments is. Everyone can do it because it is keeping the word.
As the OP suggests, the commandments are the word of God. To spread it is to keep it.
Jesus said that He was sent to testify the truth, God's word.
We must do the same.
"The reason I was born and came into the world is to testify the truth."
And how do you determine how God thinks? What are the criteria you use to know whether or not something is consistent with how God thinks?
"Only the one who comes from God has seen the Father. "
"Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. "
"The one who comes from heaven testifies to what He has seen and heard but no one believes him. If anyone does believe they render the truth of God."
Notice these three verses. Notice where it is written that no one believes the one who comes from heaven but then says it anyone does believe they render the truth of God. Now why would it say no one believes him but yet turn around and say what happens when someone does. It is because those that believe and render the word of God come from heaven. It is they who testify what they have seen and heard.
In order to hear the truth completely ,God's word, one must spread it. And I am not speaking of acts and the Epistles at all or even revelation.
Jesus said if you continue in His word you will know the truth. His word is God's word.
Do it and you will see how God thinks. He will reveal it to you. Failure to do this and confusion remains even if you think you are right.
If you continue in my word you are truly my disciple then you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.
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