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Old 03-09-2019, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Jesus wasn't building walls of separation, he was tearing them down because of their religiosity.
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See post #9. As ambassadors of Christ, we have the message of reconciliation.
But you preach separation with this "us" and "them" mentality, which is not compatible with reconciliation.
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Old 03-09-2019, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Jesus wasn't building walls of separation, he was tearing them down because of their religiosity.
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You do not have understanding. It shows big time.

Jesus didn't preach a fluffy doctrine as you do.

"I did not come to unite the world but to divide it."
Talk is cheap, try walking the path of Christ Jesus.
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Old 03-09-2019, 12:11 PM
 
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Talk is cheap, try walking the path of Christ Jesus.
https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Self-Denial
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Old 03-09-2019, 12:16 PM
 
Location: USA
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But you preach separation with this "us" and "them" mentality, which is not compatible with reconciliation.
This is such an important point. How so many are unable to see this utter failing point within their "evangelical" message is a mystery. I couldn't see it for decades.
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Old 03-09-2019, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Let no one seek his own good, but that of his neighbor -- as himself.
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Old 03-09-2019, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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But you preach separation with this "us" and "them" mentality, which is not compatible with reconciliation.
We preach John 3:16.
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Old 03-09-2019, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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But you preach separation with this "us" and "them" mentality, which is not compatible with reconciliation.
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We preach John 3:16.
You lack a great deal of understanding, believing that the LOST will not be found and restored.
Which is not compatible with the restoration of ALL things - that is inclusive of ALL HUMANITY.
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Old 03-09-2019, 12:51 PM
 
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We preach John 3:16.
A pure clarity washed with the joy of yisrayls heart.
Imagine a father finding his son to be alive and a father himself.
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Old 03-09-2019, 12:59 PM
 
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Jesus wasn't building walls of separation, he was tearing them down because of their religiosity.
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See post #9. As ambassadors of Christ, we have the message of reconciliation.
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But you preach separation with this "us" and "them" mentality, which is not compatible with reconciliation.
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This is such an important point. How so many are unable to see this utter failing point within their "evangelical" message is a mystery. I couldn't see it for decades.
Yet, you now have become my teacher with your insightfulness, where iron sharpens iron; to sharpen something usually means to make it better, and more efficient. Which leads in the same direction as the word "friend," that is employed in older translations of the Bible, which reads: Iron sharpens iron; so a man or woman sharpens the countenance of his/her friends.
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Old 03-09-2019, 01:09 PM
 
Location: New England
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See post #9. As ambassadors of Christ, we have the message of reconciliation.
I know this is a hard concept for bible fundamentalists because of what you have been raised on for years upon years, but the true mission of Jesus was not to show we are lacking and in need due to God separating himself from us, but the exact opposite, that we already have and are the things we think we lack and are the things we think we are not, and the reason we don't have and see this, is because we do not believe it It really is realigning ourselves to our true idenity, not easy when you have fully accepted you are a worm worthy of hell because of sin in a state of separation from God.
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