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Old 08-16-2019, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Screw everyone else though, huh?
Not at all. God desires that all would be saved (1 Tim. 2:4). My church spends much time, effort and money sharing the gospel. Most churches do the same.
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Old 08-16-2019, 11:59 AM
 
Location: The Eastern Shore
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Not at all. God desires that all would be saved (1 Tim. 2:4). My church spends much time, effort and money sharing the gospel. Most churches do the same.
Yet you said, "No need. Christ was perfect for all who believe."... Correct me if I am wrong, but that means only believers, right? Therefore, screw everyone else.
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Old 08-16-2019, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Yet you said, "No need. Christ was perfect for all who believe."... Correct me if I am wrong, but that means only believers, right? Therefore, screw everyone else.
Yes, that applies to believers, past, present and future. Are you a believer?
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Old 08-16-2019, 12:20 PM
 
Location: TEXAS
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Christians don’t have to be concerned about trying not to sin. We are “no longer slaves to sin” (Romans 6:6). We can just be, since the Spirit lives in us (Ephesians 1:13-14).

so you are saying it is ok to just keep sinning? have no concern at all, just sin as much as you want to?
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Old 08-16-2019, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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so you are saying it is ok to just keep sinning? have no concern at all, just sin as much as you want to?
Why would a Spirit-filled person want to sin?
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Old 08-16-2019, 12:41 PM
 
Location: TEXAS
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Why would a Spirit-filled person want to sin?
because, according to jimmiej, ... they " don’t have to be concerned about trying not to sin."".
now answer my question.
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Old 08-16-2019, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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because, according to jimmiej, ... they " don’t have to be concerned about trying not to sin."".


now answer my question.
I did. A Spirit-filled person does not want to sin. They desire to please the Father. However, as someone has pointed out, the flesh is weak and sometimes believers sin. In that case...

1 John 2:1

If anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

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Old 08-16-2019, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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Beautiful! It seems that whenever my shortcomings are revealed to me, I get a deeper understanding of grace.
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awesome...!!
but this was awesome and So true!!
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You and kmom are some of my favorite posters! Bless you, both!
Thank you for the kind words, love what all of you post as well.
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Old 08-16-2019, 01:40 PM
 
Location: TEXAS
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I did. A Spirit-filled person does not want to sin. They desire to please the Father. However, as someone has pointed out, the flesh is weak and sometimes believers sin. In that case...
1 John 2:1
If anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.
but why do they need Jesus (again) IF they are already Spirit Filled - did the Spirit leave?, or get weak and need 'topped up' ?
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Old 08-16-2019, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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I did. A Spirit-filled person does not want to sin. They desire to please the Father. However, as someone has pointed out, the flesh is weak and sometimes believers sin. In that case...

1 John 2:1

If anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

Yeah, we spirit filled types still like to sin. Our sins are no longer counted against us, but while we still inhabit these earth suits, we still have a penchant for things of this world.

The danger is when we trade the more obvious carnal cravings for deep seated but harder to quantify sins like pride and arrogance that it becomes a problem. It's easy to think we have made it cause we eschew sex, drugs and rock and roll and think we are better than another who enjoys a little fleshly dalliance here and there. Those haughty sins are much more spirit quenching.
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