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05-03-2008, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by xxGreyFalconxx
My "views" as you call them are based on Scripture.
My beliefs are also based on the things contained within the New Testament.
And as far as my "church". I am a member of the Lord's church.
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Tag, I'm it...
Thank you for your inability to answer a simple question. I feel that this conversation is over...
<>< weather...
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05-03-2008, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by xxGreyFalconxx
My "views" as you call them are based on Scripture.
My beliefs are also based on the things contained within the New Testament.
And as far as my "church". I am a member of the Lord's church.
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Yes, but do you believe in the words of the creeds, the statement of faith? Every sermon is a statement of faith, btw
The history of the creeds was to define Christianity from those who claimed to be Christian but disagreed with basic issues like the divinity of Christ. Christians who reject the creeds basically reject Christianity. It's whatever they say is the faith rather than following the foundational statements of the Christian church from the holy apostles & Church fathers.
I find it ironic that those claiming to believe in the "real or true" Christianity actually are outside the Church; non-traditional believers who reject the very teachings of Christ.
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05-03-2008, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by weatherologist
Tag, I'm it...
Thank you for your inability to answer a simple question. I feel that this conversation is over...
<>< weather...
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Act 2:47 Praising God, and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
Thats my church.
That is the third time I have answered you over two different threads.
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05-03-2008, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by happ
I find it ironic that those claiming to believe in the "real or true" Christianity actually are outside the Church; non-traditional believers who reject the very teachings of Christ.
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Please show me the Scripture that says Priests are the only ones to observe the communion of blood?
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05-03-2008, 05:04 PM
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Please show me the Scripture that says Priests are the only ones to observe the communion of blood?
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Not sure exactly what you mean by the communion of blood. Jesus initiated the sacrament; "this is my Body . . . this is My Blood . . . do this often." Do you believe the Bible that Christ forgives sins in the Holy Communion? Do you observe/celebrate the Lord's Supper often? Are educated and ordained clergy set aside to provide God's Word and Sacraments for His people? [nearly all Christians recognize an ordained clergy].
Unfortunately you have rejected the teachings of the Christian faith yet condemn others who are Christian as going to Hell.
You do "believe in the only holy catholic and apostolic Church" as professed by Christians worldwide?
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05-03-2008, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by happ
Yes, but do you believe in the words of the creeds, the statement of faith? Every sermon is a statement of faith, btw
The history of the creeds was to define Christianity from those who claimed to be Christian but disagreed with basic issues like the divinity of Christ. Christians who reject the creeds basically reject Christianity. It's whatever they say is the faith rather than following the foundational statements of the Christian church from the holy apostles & Church fathers.
I find it ironic that those claiming to believe in the "real or true" Christianity actually are outside the Church; non-traditional believers who reject the very teachings of Christ.
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I find it ironic that some that call themselves Christians deny that we can become one with Him and live as Jesus taught us to live. We are Sons & Daughters of God, and the things that Jesus did, we can do and more.
Theses creeds tend to elevate beyond our reach, and Jesus taught that the Kingdom of God is at hand, and we know that no iniquity inherits the kingdom, regardless of creeds or magic prayers, or associations.
It's about living Christ, not enforcing definitions that alienate believers. There is One church, stop dividing it.
godspeed,
freedom
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05-03-2008, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by freedom
I find it ironic that some that call themselves Christians deny that we can become one with Him and live as Jesus taught us to live. We are Sons & Daughters of God, and the things that Jesus did, we can do and more.
Theses creeds tend to elevate beyond our reach, and Jesus taught that the Kingdom of God is at hand, and we know that no iniquity inherits the kingdom, regardless of creeds or magic prayers, or associations.
It's about living Christ, not enforcing definitions that alienate believers. There is One church, stop dividing it.
godspeed,
freedom
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Agree with you 100%, godspeed [& why I respond to these threads condemning other Christians as false believers.
Because of the very reason this thread is posted is why the Christian Church established tenets of faith. The faith that comes together each Sunday to worship God. The clergy merely provide the means of grace by leading us in prayer, announce God's forgiveness, read the Bible, preach the Gospel, conduct the eucharist of Christ's real presence among us in the form of bread & wine and bless us on our way. This is the mass of the earliest Christian church. Why have you veered so far away?
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05-03-2008, 07:51 PM
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Maine wannabee!
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Seems like the original questions was - Do you believe?
I believe!
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05-03-2008, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by happ
Agree with you 100%, godspeed [& why I respond to these threads condemning other Christians as false believers.
Because of the very reason this thread is posted is why the Christian Church established tenets of faith. The faith that comes together each Sunday to worship God. The clergy merely provide the means of grace by leading us in prayer, announce God's forgiveness, read the Bible, preach the Gospel, conduct the eucharist of Christ's real presence among us in the form of bread & wine and bless us on our way. This is the mass of the earliest Christian church. Why have you veered so far away?
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Know ye not that Ye are the Temple of God.
THe annointing that you have recieved, abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you. For the annointing that ye have recieved abideth in you.
Go Direct, learn from the Master. Trust not in the Arm of Flesh. For cursed is he that does so.
godspeed,
freedom
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05-03-2008, 11:10 PM
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You do not answer why you have left the one, holy catholic church as practiced by the overwhelming number of world-wide Christians [Protestants & Catholics alike].
Your interpretation of the Bible is contrary to the Christian Church.
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