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My response is the same, the mark of the beast will be a $ sign. There are many who worship it already, and I honestly believe greed and avarice, and 'its children,' will contribute to our own downfall, pit neighbor against neighbor, haves against have-nots, country against country -- and playing right into what you seem to believe in terms of a 'beast.'
Jesus, himself, admonished the money-changers in His Father's temple, and cursed them for their blasphemy.
Somewhere, I recall the statement "money is the root of all evil."
You have not convinced me you are here for God. Quite the opposite. Historically, good Christians put many to death for something as insignificant as skin blemishes and moles, screaming that they were familiar with the very devil, himself.
Are you a, "Do What Thy Will" person? As an ex-atheist myself, let me challenge you to read the Word. Start inthe New Testament, and think about starting with the woman in the mirror. Trust me, you'll be TRULY HAPPY you did!!
Now, one has finally realized his crime of hijacking and has fled into the night. Or is it because one has no true argument, says a few last words as an attempt to save face and get in the last word, before fleeing so as not to hear the painful truth? Me thinks so.
Of course I admit hijacking ... and again, my apologies. I should not be posting here unless I wanted to comment on the "mark of the beast" issue. I've wandered off topic as many others have. Not running away or trying to save face ... just don't want to continue the discussion in this thread as it is the wrong place to do so.
Posing a logical and cogent argument on the issue of the interpretation of end times biblical prohpecy (or any religious scripture) would take pages and pages and pages of posts ... and this thread is not the place to do that.
I would be happy to continue the discussion elsewhere ... so long those wanting to have the discussion are fully prepared to admit that everything they believe could be wrong. I am prepared to accept that. I have views and opinions, but no personal conviction that I have fully grasped all truth and fact on these matters. If others have the same midset, then we can set out to explore the possibilities and use good deductive reasoning and sound logic to come to the most probable conclusions.
There is no point in debating with anyone if they are so biased and unobjective, they are unable to think rationally. God gave us our minds and intellect for a reason and I am always leary of anyone who insists in being right because they believe they are being "led by the spirit".
I say it because you did it. And I have said it when it directly relates to a poster who has done it. Whether you actually say "I'm going to insult your intelligence now, or try my best" does not mean that we dumb old Christians can't get the jist. All atheists play the "intelligence" card. I have issues with that but not with them personally.
I pick the same kinds of fights with atheists and evolutionists that I am picking here. I am a Chrsitian, but I am a "fly in the ointment" "sand in vaseline" kind of Chrsitian. I don't buy into all the rhetoric just because some pastor says it is so.
I pick the same kinds of fights with atheists and evolutionists that I am picking here. I am a Chrsitian, but I am a "fly in the ointment" "sand in vaseline" kind of Chrsitian. I don't buy into all the rhetoric just because some pastor says it is so.
Dang it ... hijacking again. Sorry.
Then you are a rare believer, and most likely those that are like you, are the only ones that will not take the mark of the beast.
The rest speak strength and bravery, but are no different than Peter saying, i would lay my life down for you Lord, and then go and deny Him. Three times no less, and even after being warned.
Of course I admit hijacking ... and again, my apologies. I should not be posting here unless I wanted to comment on the "mark of the beast" issue. I've wandered off topic as many others have. Not running away or trying to save face ... just don't want to continue the discussion in this thread as it is the wrong place to do so.
Posing a logical and cogent argument on the issue of the interpretation of end times biblical prohpecy (or any religious scripture) would take pages and pages and pages of posts ... and this thread is not the place to do that.
I would be happy to continue the discussion elsewhere ... so long those wanting to have the discussion are fully prepared to admit that everything they believe could be wrong. I am prepared to accept that. I have views and opinions, but no personal conviction that I have fully grasped all truth and fact on these matters. If others have the same midset, then we can set out to explore the possibilities and use good deductive reasoning and sound logic to come to the most probable conclusions.
There is no point in debating with anyone if they are so biased and unobjective, they are unable to think rationally. God gave us our minds and intellect for a reason and I am always leary of anyone who insists in being right because they believe they are being "led by the spirit".
That's reasonable, I suppose. There is something that I absolutely know to be the truth, and therefore will never back down or deny it or consider it illogical. Jesus Christ suffered and died for our sins, and we must accept Him as our Saviour and live for Him in order to be saved and have eternal life in heaven.
The rest we can only hope that we have correct and should be open to others opinions or thoughts. There is a fine line between being absolutely sure that what understanding you have taken away from the Bible is from being led by the spirit or leaning upon your own understanding. People do find that later on down the road the spirit actually does lead them and what they originally thought was completely wrong. But there are some basic principles of Christianity that will always be non-negotiable. That's why Christians irritate unbelievers so badly, I think. But that' what Christianity is.....an unshakable belief and complete knowledge of God's existance.
Hmmm ... the spirit isn't guiding you very well on that unfounded conclusion.
I am a Christian.
As in you believe Jesus Christ died on the cross, arose from the dead and you must accept Him as Lord and Savior, repent and live a Godly life and Jesus is the ONLY way to have eternal life in heaven?
Your oppositional posts do not convey that you are a Christian. I call it like I see it. The Holy Spirit isn't needed to see something so obvious.
As in you believe Jesus Christ died on the cross, arose from the dead and you must accept Him as Lord and Savior, repent and live a Godly life and Jesus is the ONLY way to have eternal life in heaven?
Your oppositional posts do not convey that you are a Christian. I call it like I see it. The Holy Spirit isn't needed to see something so obvious.
I was thinking, I have a beast of a dog, and he marks things all the time. Once dry it is invisible, but you know it is there because it stinks. Sort of like this thread!
But that' what Christianity is.....an unshakable belief and complete knowledge of God's existance.
Interesting. I thought Christianity was ascribing to the teachings of Christ, and living one's own life as close to what Christ Himself preached. One could believe in God and not be Christian.
Some post on this thread are doing more for the atheist and agnostic movement than anything education and logic could ever do.
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Sorry.
