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Old 09-13-2022, 08:50 AM
 
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If they hate an apostle of Jesus' then who won't they go against?
Children of disobedience must hate, ridicule and fight. It's their nature, they can't help it. They lie too, can you believe that?
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Old 09-13-2022, 10:11 AM
 
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Children of disobedience must hate, ridicule and fight. It's their nature, they can't help it. They lie too, can you believe that?
I have been discussing with Christians for many years now and am so saddened to see how hateful and mean most are.
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Old 09-13-2022, 10:13 AM
 
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I know that you will use Paul's words to try and prove Jesus wrong, because I know you dont agree with what Jesus said.

Is Paul wrong or is Jesus?

You said you would do what Jesus said, but you dont, thats all.
You are bearing false witness.

You prove that you are the one who who doesn't obey God.
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Old 09-13-2022, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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You are bearing false witness.

You prove that you are the one who who doesn't obey God.
No, you are just dishonest with yourself and everyone else.
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Old 09-13-2022, 02:25 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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I have been discussing with Christians for many years now and am so saddened to see how hateful and mean most are.
Ain’t that the truth? In my opinion it is not that they mean to be it is more that the doctrinal overtakes the personal

Humans make assumptions, generalisations and take things out of context all the time and the greater the systems and organisations involved the more scope for error/sin/transgressions

This is what Christianity has been and still is currently caught in and in Romans we are told it is not that this ‘creature’ ‘creation’ wanted it, it was subjected to this futility and suffering - Romans 8:18-30
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Old 09-13-2022, 02:37 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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You are bearing false witness.

You prove that you are the one who who doesn't obey God.
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No, you are just dishonest with yourself and everyone else.
Maybe you are both bearing false witness against each other to a certain extent or just plain misunderstanding each other’s point of view?

Just a thought, but what I see is that we generally can get too focused on the doctrinal side and forget the personal side
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Old 09-13-2022, 03:44 PM
 
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No, you are just dishonest with yourself and everyone else.
You shouldn't be allowed to post the way you do.
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Old 09-13-2022, 03:53 PM
 
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Ain’t that the truth? In my opinion it is not that they mean to be it is more that the doctrinal overtakes the personal

Humans make assumptions, generalisations and take things out of context all the time and the greater the systems and organisations involved the more scope for error/sin/transgressions

This is what Christianity has been and still is currently caught in and in Romans we are told it is not that this ‘creature’ ‘creation’ wanted it, it was subjected to this futility and suffering - Romans 8:18-30
It is downright evil the way many do. When I was in a false denomination I am so glad I stayed humble as Jesus tells us to be, because I might not have listened to some good advice I was given that helped change things for my powerful testimony I ended up having.
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Old 09-13-2022, 03:54 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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You shouldn't be allowed to post the way you do.
If you have a problem with the relevance of posts to the topic you should report them to the moderator (it’s quite easy for people to get sidetracked and off topic )
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Old 09-13-2022, 03:56 PM
 
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Maybe you are both bearing false witness against each other to a certain extent or just plain misunderstanding each other’s point of view?
No way do I bear false witness. I am defending myself from this person's untruths about me. Jesus says to be careful how you judge.

Why would you join him in his false judgment? How hard is it to see the way he is speaking to me and about me that is not right?

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Just a thought, but what I see is that we generally can get too focused on the doctrinal side and forget the personal side
He is attacking me personally and not my doctrine. He doesn't even know my doctrine.
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