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And to be fair, the first line in the OP is "Why do people reject Jesus?"
Well, Christians DON'T reject Jesus-but now we know that line was nothing but a clever, snide little setup to say that people who don't think the way the OP does are rejecting Jesus, even if they worship God and Jesus and believe him to be their savior. They are simply not up to the OP's standards, who of course has the Truth that the rest of them are all missing.
We've seen this movie before on this forum. Over and over again.
And to be fair, the first line in the OP is "Why do people reject Jesus?"
Well, Christians DON'T reject Jesus-but now we know that line was nothing but a clever, snide little setup to say that people who don't think the way the OP does are rejecting Jesus, even if they worship God and Jesus and believe him to be their savior. They are simply not up to the OP's standards, who of course has the Truth that the rest of them are all missing.
We've seen this movie before on this forum. Over and over again.
The ones that Jesus lived and died for, and gave obedience, will obey Him 1 Pet 1:2
2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedienceand sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
He first obeyed God for them Rom 5:19
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
Yes one can be in a saved position now, The real followers are, but they can fall, thus the words from Jesus at Matt 24:13. One must endure until their end now in this satan ruled system, doing Jesus' Fathers will over their own will, as Jesus did always( John5:30, Matt 6:10,, Luke 22:42)--That will is--Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God.
But you said no one can know or say that they are saved now, until I showed you the scriptures.
And to be fair, the first line in the OP is "Why do people reject Jesus?"
Well, Christians DON'T reject Jesus-but now we know that line was nothing but a clever, snide little setup to say that people who don't think the way the OP does are rejecting Jesus,
That is a false statement.
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Originally Posted by Mightyqueen801
even if they worship God and Jesus and believe him to be their savior. They are simply not up to the OP's standards, who of course has the Truth that the rest of them are all missing.
We've seen this movie before on this forum. Over and over again.
I posted it for the Christians who believe as I do to share truth, and, I posted it for the CALVINISTS who claim that those who do not believe are NOT enabled to believe because God doesn't want them.
I have shown that their teaching is false because God says they CHOOSE not to believe.
This is hard to explain to those who don't know what Calvinists believe.
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The ones that Jesus lived and died for, and gave obedience, will obey Him 1 Pet 1:2
2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedienceand sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
He first obeyed God for them Rom 5:19
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
I proved with the scriptures why people don't believe, and God doesn't say what you say.
God doesn't say they don't believe because He doesn't want them saved.
No one receives the sprinkling of blood until they repent of their sins and believe in his blood.
I posted it for the Christians who believe as I do to share truth, and, I posted it for the CALVINISTS who claim that those who do not believe are NOT enabled to believe because God doesn't want them.
I have shown that their teaching is false because God says they CHOOSE not to believe.
This is hard to explain to those who don't know what Calvinists believe.
I was raised Calvinist (Reformed Church of America), so I know.
The problem people have with you is that you seem to be saying that ONLY you know the truth and everyone else is wrong. That doesn't do any to make anyone want to find out what you have to say. It just pushes people away.
It's all in the presentation. Jesus didn't stand there like he was better than everybody else and say only he knew the truth. He showed people rather than pointed fingers at them.
I was raised Calvinist (Reformed Church of America), so I know.
The problem people have with you is that you seem to be saying that ONLY you know the truth and everyone else is wrong. That doesn't do any to make anyone want to find out what you have to say. It just pushes people away.
It's all in the presentation. Jesus didn't stand there like he was better than everybody else and say only he knew the truth. He showed people rather than pointed fingers at them.
I was raised Calvinist (Reformed Church of America), so I know.
The problem people have with you is that you seem to be saying that ONLY you know the truth and everyone else is wrong. That doesn't do any to make anyone want to find out what you have to say. It just pushes people away.
It's all in the presentation. Jesus didn't stand there like he was better than everybody else and say only he knew the truth. He showed people rather than pointed fingers at them.
People can judge me all they want. I just don't go by what they say.
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