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Be wise enough to decipher the false Christians from the true Christians. Simply calling yourself a Christian does not make you one.
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Originally Posted by twin.spin
This concept was mentioned in a OP to someone else, so I'm bumping it for their enjoyment.
There is such a complete lack of understanding about what WE are authorized to DO and BE as followers of Christ. First and foremost . . . we must get it into our heads that WE are NOT Christ . . . so what Jesus could say and correct has nothing to do with what WE are able to say and correct. WE are limited to correcting ourselves. We have no authority to correct anyone else. WE are to concern ourselves with what WE embrace . . . NOT what others embrace. Our "fruits" speak for us . . . NOT our condemnations. WE are NOT Christ!!!One of the most loving things a Christian can do today is correct error IN OURSELVES, period! Trying to decide who is and is not a Christian is NOT our job. It is God's, period!! Our concern should be whether or not WE are following Christ's instructions to His disciples to "love God and each other" daily and repent when we don't.
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Originally Posted by Whyte Byrd Be wise enough to decipher the false Christians from the true Christians. Simply calling yourself a Christian does not make you one.
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Originally Posted by twin.spin This concept was mentioned in a OP to someone else, so I'm bumping it for their enjoyment.
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Originally Posted by MysticPhD
There is such a complete lack of understanding about what WE are authorized to DO and BE as followers of Christ. First and foremost . . . we must get it into our heads that WE are NOT Christ . . . so what Jesus could say and correct has nothing to do with what WE are able to say and correct. WE are limited to correcting ourselves. We have no authority to correct anyone else. WE are to concern ourselves with what WE embrace . . . NOT what others embrace. Our "fruits" speak for us . . . NOT our condemnations. WE are NOT Christ!!!One of the most loving things a Christian can do today is correct error IN OURSELVES, period! Trying to decide who is and is not a Christian is NOT our job. It is God's, period!! Our concern should be whether or not WE are following Christ's instructions to His disciples to "love God and each other" daily and repent when we don't.
well, well .... are you directing this to yourself or is the spirit (some say a false spirit) with it's barbaric neanderthal new covenant theology that dwells within being the usual self and addressing this to us?
There is such a complete lack of understanding about what WE are authorized to DO and BE as followers of Christ. First and foremost . . . we must get it into our heads that WE are NOT Christ . . . so what Jesus could say and correct has nothing to do with what WE are able to say and correct. WE are limited to correcting ourselves. We have no authority to correct anyone else. WE are to concern ourselves with what WE embrace . . . NOT what others embrace. Our "fruits" speak for us . . . NOT our condemnations. WE are NOT Christ!!!One of the most loving things a Christian can do today is correct error IN OURSELVES, period! Trying to decide who is and is not a Christian is NOT our job. It is God's, period!! Our concern should be whether or not WE are following Christ's instructions to His disciples to "love God and each other" daily and repent when we don't.
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Originally Posted by twin.spin
well, well .... are you directing this to yourself or is the spirit (some say a false spirit) with it's barbaric neanderthal new covenant theology that dwells within being the usual self and addressing this to us?
As usual, I am witnessing to MY understanding of what we who follow Christ are authorized to do . . . i.e., "love God and each other" daily and repent when we don't. I am pretty sure none of us have the wisdom of Christ or the love of Christ or the ability know the hearts of anyone else . . . so speaking as if we do does seem to me to be rather presumptuous. Are you suggesting that the New Covenant is barbaric and that God has NOT "written in our hearts?" Are you calling the Holy Spirit (Comforter) we were promised a false spirit? Do you think trusting what the Comforter leads us to in our hearts under the New Covenant is neanderthal new covenant theology???
I read only the first few comments to see what Oprah said. Then i remembered, this must be what i heard people talking about Oprah and her New Agey type touchy feely approach to religion.
I would not listen to her as far as spiritual things. Theres a lot of people who think like her. But its nothing i respect.
did she say Jesus was not the only way to heaven in the video? I think i remember her making this speech some time ago. I thought it was just typical touchy feely new agey pagan stuff which has no importance on me as a person and secondly as a christian. theres a lot of people saying whatever nowadays and i pay it no attention.
As usual, I am witnessing to MY understanding of what we who follow Christ are authorized to do . . . i.e., "love God and each other" daily and repent when we don't. I am pretty sure none of us have the wisdom of Christ or the love of Christ or the ability know the hearts of anyone else . . . so speaking as if we do does seem to me to be rather presumptuous. Are you suggesting that the New Covenant is barbaric and that God has NOT "written in our hearts?" Are you calling the Holy Spirit (Comforter) we were promised a false spirit? Do you think trusting what the Comforter leads us to in our hearts under the New Covenant is neanderthal new covenant theology???
Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 2 Corinthians11:14
I'm calling whatever you refer to as "the spirit that dwells within" is what it is 2 Corinthians11:14
And we know this by what this spirit has come out against of (implied and expressively) as it speaks from it's "bible". Based on what this "spirit that dwells within" is teaching from it's "bible", we're are able to compare it like what Bereans did ... and are then confidently able to answer your questions.
Are you suggesting that the New Covenant is barbaric and that God has NOT "written in our hearts?" A: as to that spirit's doctrinal\theological proclamations and rebuttals: Yes-2 Corinthians11:14 ... it a masquerading message
Are you calling the Holy Spirit (Comforter) we were promised a false spirit?
A:as to that spirit's open doctrinal\theological proclamations and rebuttals (thus knowing it's fruit): Yes -2 Corinthians11:14 ... it a masquerading message
Do you think trusting what the Comforter leads us to in our hearts under the New Covenant is neanderthal new covenant theology???
A: as to that spirit's open doctrinal\theological proclamations and rebuttals (thus knowing it's fruit): Yes -2 Corinthians11:14 ... it a masquerading message
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Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 2 Corinthians11:14
I'm calling whatever you refer to as "the spirit that dwells within" is what it is 2 Corinthians11:14
And we know this by what this spirit has come out against of (implied and expressively) as it speaks from it's "bible". Based on what this "spirit that dwells within" is teaching from it's "bible", we're are able to compare it like what Bereans did ... and are then confidently able to answer your questions.
Are you suggesting that the New Covenant is barbaric and that God has NOT "written in our hearts?" A: as to that spirit's doctrinal\theological proclamations and rebuttals: Yes-2 Corinthians11:14 ... it a masquerading message
Are you calling the Holy Spirit (Comforter) we were promised a false spirit?
A:as to that spirit's open doctrinal\theological proclamations and rebuttals (thus knowing it's fruit): Yes -2 Corinthians11:14 ... it a masquerading message
Do you think trusting what the Comforter leads us to in our hearts under the New Covenant is neanderthal new covenant theology???
A: as to that spirit's open doctrinal\theological proclamations and rebuttals (thus knowing it's fruit): Yes -2 Corinthians11:14 ... it a masquerading message
The problem for those claiming God's spirit and rejecting anything in the Bible they don't agree with, is that they have no ability to truly test their "spirit" and no one else does either who subscribe to that idea. It isn't an internal test it is an external one as the Boreans showed. We can test that spirit someone claims by comparing their claimed leading to Scripture. If it does not match, beyond a few points, it isn't God's spirit. They won't accept that.
As usual, I am witnessing to MY understanding of what we who follow Christ are authorized to do . . . i.e., "love God and each other" daily and repent when we don't. I am pretty sure none of us have the wisdom of Christ or the love of Christ or the ability know the hearts of anyone else . . . so speaking as if we do does seem to me to be rather presumptuous. Are you suggesting that the New Covenant is barbaric and that God has NOT "written in our hearts?" Are you calling the Holy Spirit (Comforter) we were promised a false spirit? Do you think trusting what the Comforter leads us to in our hearts under the New Covenant is neanderthal new covenant theology???
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Originally Posted by twin.spin
Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 2 Corinthians11:14
I'm calling whatever you refer to as "the spirit that dwells within" is what it is 2 Corinthians11:14
And we know this by what this spirit has come out against of (implied and expressively) as it speaks from it's "bible". Based on what this "spirit that dwells within" is teaching from it's "bible", we're are able to compare it like what Bereans did ... and are then confidently able to answer your questions. Are you suggesting that the New Covenant is barbaric and that God has NOT "written in our hearts?" A: as to that spirit's doctrinal\theological proclamations and rebuttals: Yes-2 Corinthians11:14 ... it a masquerading message
Are you calling the Holy Spirit (Comforter) we were promised a false spirit?
A:as to that spirit's open doctrinal\theological proclamations and rebuttals (thus knowing it's fruit): Yes -2 Corinthians11:14 ... it a masquerading message
Do you think trusting what the Comforter leads us to in our hearts under the New Covenant is neanderthal new covenant theology???
A: as to that spirit's open doctrinal\theological proclamations and rebuttals (thus knowing it's fruit): Yes -2 Corinthians11:14 ... it a masquerading message
Okay. My witness has obviously fallen on the Old Covenant hardened rock of blind faith in the words "written in ink" and stone.
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Originally Posted by expatCA
The problem for those claiming God's spirit and rejecting anything in the Bible they don't agree with, is that they have no ability to truly test their "spirit" and no one else does either who subscribe to that idea.
You keep saying this but it is NOT true. We have agape love to test the Spirit of anything. God IS agape love so anything NOT compatible with it is NOT of God. It is a simple test. You cannot actually mean you cannot identify what is agape loving and what is not????
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It isn't an internal test it is an external one as the Boreans showed. We can test that spirit someone claims by comparing their claimed leading to Scripture. If it does not match, beyond a few points, it isn't God's spirit. They won't accept that.
If you are using the words "written in ink" to test the Spirit of the words "written in ink" . . . you are NOT testing the Spirit. It is a silly and foolish exercise in futility based on a lack of belief in and lack of trust of the Comforter and what God has "written in our hearts."
Okay. My witness has obviously fallen on the Old Covenant hardened rock of blind faith in the words "written in ink" and stone.
You keep saying this but it is NOT true. We have agape love to test the Spirit of anything. God IS agape love so anything NOT compatible with it is NOT of God. It is a simple test. You cannot actually mean you cannot identify what is agape loving and what is not????If you are using the words "written in ink" to test the Spirit of the words "written in ink" . . . you are NOT testing the Spirit. It is a silly and foolish exercise in futility based on a lack of belief in and lack of trust of the Comforter and what God has "written in our hearts."
Exactly. I doubt the hard-liners will listen though - in fact they have already made up their minds and their heels are dug in. They will not see Christ until death overcomes them. No amount of arguing can change an individuals birth order.
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Exactly. I doubt the hard-liners will listen though - in fact they have already made up their minds and their heels are dug in. They will not see Christ until death overcomes them. No amount of arguing can change an individuals birth order.
