U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality > Christianity
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 1.5 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Jump to a detailed profile or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Business Search - 14 Million verified businesses
Search for:  near: 
 
 
Old 06-13-2008, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Lambs Book of Life
1,592 posts, read 3,126,428 times
Reputation: 624

Advertisements

Want to know what I believe the gospel message is? Here it is,
The True Gospel, by Paul Washer.

I know that YouTube videos are not popular on this site. Especially longer ones. This one tops them all at 1hr 27min 42sec!

I realize that the likelihood of anyone watching this video is slim to none, and that's OK; this thread will just fall by the wayside. But, if even one person watches this, it will be worth posting. This guy will blow you away. It's the true gospel, unleashed, unedited, not watered down! See if you can tell the difference between this sermon and the ones preached in most American churches today. THIS is the gospel, folks.
Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-14-2008, 08:40 AM
 
1,897 posts, read 2,185,545 times
Reputation: 274
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simple Living View Post
Want to know what I believe the gospel message is? Here it is,
The True Gospel, by Paul Washer.

I know that YouTube videos are not popular on this site. Especially longer ones. This one tops them all at 1hr 27min 42sec!

I realize that the likelihood of anyone watching this video is slim to none, and that's OK; this thread will just fall by the wayside. But, if even one person watches this, it will be worth posting. This guy will blow you away. It's the true gospel, unleashed, unedited, not watered down! See if you can tell the difference between this sermon and the ones preached in most American churches today. THIS is the gospel, folks.
Wow, Simple Living! What a blessing that video was. Thank you for sharing it. I wasn't sure I would watch the whole thing, but I was drawn in and couldn't leave!

Two things especially stood out to me--(1) We are not saved from our SINS--we are saved from GOD! In other words--from His wrath. (2) Jesus had to be God because only God could withstand the full wrath of God!

Washer is like a modern-day Jonathan Edwards preaching "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God." How transformed the Church would be if we were again taught these things consistently from the pulpit, fully grasped them, and taught them to others as well!

Thanks again, Simple Living. I was truly blessed!

In Christ, Preterist
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-14-2008, 09:55 AM
 
Location: In the♥of Jesus !
9,590 posts, read 5,315,616 times
Reputation: 17617
Excellent video!
True repentance is a hate for sin and turning to Christ for the cleansing of one's heart and walking in the purification of Christ's salvation.
It is on going, never ending walk that the Holy Spirit cleansing one of all sin.
We need more ministers that preach repentance not complacency and compromise!!!
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-14-2008, 10:41 AM
 
12,406 posts, read 15,055,578 times
Reputation: 14650
Simple, I watch very few of the Youtube videos here ..Not that I don't want to, because I get really frustrated when I can't..I am very hard of hearing and the sound is just noise Once in a blue noom there are kyrics caotioned in and I enjoy those ..
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-14-2008, 11:53 AM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
3,981 posts, read 5,397,036 times
Reputation: 3659
I listened to the entire video, and agree...it is very powerful. I do have one question that I would like to ask him. Why did he not tell the audience what Jesus said before ascending? Mark 16 15-16 " Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned."

He did not speak of obedience to the gospel, or washing away their sins in baptism. That is part of the gospel.
My understanding of 'obeying the gospel' is being buried with Christ in baptism, which is the likeness of His death, burial, and resurrection. Romans 6.3 through 5.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-15-2008, 07:44 AM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
3,981 posts, read 5,397,036 times
Reputation: 3659
I have been thinkng of the translation that I used for posting Mark 16.16. and regret using the NASB. I believe that other translations are more accurate.

NIV: " Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned."

ASV: " He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned."

Contfraternity: "He who believes and is baptized shall be saved, but he who does not believe shall be condemned. "

I wish I had a NKJ to quote from, but I don't ( as of yet). I would appreciate if someone would post what it says.

Simple Living, I hope you return with your wise comments on this. :-)
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-16-2008, 12:57 AM
 
83 posts, read 256,044 times
Reputation: 36
Marianinark,

Why did Jesus say to "repent and believe the Gospel" in the beginning of Mark and not include bapism? Why is repentance not included in Mark 16:16? Also, why does Jesus say you must believe and be baptized to be saved, but he only includes unbelief as the reason one perishes? If baptism was necessary, why not include both?

Are you familiar with the fact that the vast majority of scholars reject the authenticity of the end of Mark, including the verses you quoted?
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-16-2008, 04:41 AM
 
Location: Texas
4,345 posts, read 3,718,045 times
Reputation: 820
Quote:
Originally Posted by natewood3 View Post

Are you familiar with the fact that the vast majority of scholars reject the authenticity of the end of Mark, including the verses you quoted?
It's rejected because it is missing from all the early manuscripts. Me-thinks that "So they went out quickly and fled from the tomb, for they trembled and were amazed. And they said nothing to anyone, for they were afraid" was deemed not to be a very good ending.

I tend to believe it was added, as it is a bizarre contradiction to say (basically) "Go tell everybody this great and happy news, and if they don't believe you - to hell with 'em!".

Of course I know this statement makes perfect sense to most evangelicals

That being said, I agree with Paul W. that most 'believers' do not really know God and that is the problem...

blessings,
- Byron

Last edited by firstborn888; 06-16-2008 at 04:45 AM.. Reason: add on
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-16-2008, 07:21 AM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
3,981 posts, read 5,397,036 times
Reputation: 3659
Quote:
Originally Posted by natewood3 View Post
Marianinark,


Are you familiar with the fact that the vast majority of scholars reject the authenticity of the end of Mark, including the verses you quoted?

I do not know about the "vast majority of scholars", since I have 9 differant translations, and the only one that leaves those sentences out ( but inserts them in a footnote) is the RSV.

Answer me this: Since Peter was the chosen one to preach the first sermon following Christ's resurrection, why did he answer the multitude as he did, when they asked "What shall we do?". ?

As for your first question, Christ did not include baptism at the first of Mark's epistle because He had not been crucified yet, so it was not given yet.

Last edited by Towhee; 06-16-2008 at 07:56 AM..
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-16-2008, 07:30 AM
 
7,768 posts, read 9,713,473 times
Reputation: 3394
http://www.city-data.com/forum/relig...tion-what.html
Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


 
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:
Over $84,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality > Christianity

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2014, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25 - Top