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Old 06-28-2008, 06:14 AM
 
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I am curious as to how many of you as Christians really have a comprehensive knowledge of the world in which the portions of the Bible was written. Do you take into account the political and religious climate of the day? Do you know what else was going on in the region as certain biblical stories and/or characters supposedly occurred/lived? You read of the Egyptians, the Canaanites, the Babylonians and Persians in your bibles, but have you ever looked into those cultures to see if they might have had any influence on religious doctrines and/or stories in the bible? How about the "400 silent years," the so-called non revelation years between the end of the Old Testament book of Malachi and the New Testament book of Matthew, a time that when looked into goes a VERY long way in shedding valuable light on things found in the New Testament?

What about Greek influence (Hellenism) and it's effect on Jewish philosophy leading up to the times of the New Testament represented in prominent and influential Jewish thinkers like Philo?

Does ANY of this matter to you or do you feel that your religion developed within a vacuum, completely oblivious to and uninfluenced by outside sources? Do you feel your religion is completely divinely inspired , case closed? Do you feel completely honest in such a response WITHOUT checking other possible facts? I'm truly curious.
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Old 06-28-2008, 06:58 AM
 
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good question..
I read alot, from the illad and the odyssey to shakepeare and steinbeck. Im a bookworm. I have no problem with saying that I believe the Bible is divinely inspired. I have checked other possible facts, and to me that all point to the fact (fact for me), that the bible is the genuine word of GOD.
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Old 06-28-2008, 07:12 AM
 
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One thing about the Bible is that compared to other works, its shows the weakness and faults of the people in it. It shows their weakness and even inablities. If it were merely a man inspired book, I would think that it would show very limited signs of weakness in the charactors, especially when writing about ones self.
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Old 06-29-2008, 03:52 AM
 
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If it were merely a man inspired book, I would think that it would show very limited signs of weakness in the charactors, especially when writing about ones self.
The thing is that the Bible is not God's autobiography, nor is it written by God.
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Old 06-29-2008, 08:45 AM
 
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The Bible says it is inspired by God. I believe it to my core. I'm always amazed that other than Christ God allows us to see most of the characters with all of their flaws and failures. They are not perfect yet God uses them in spite of their weaknesses. I think that gives up hope that with all our short-comings that God can use us.
Billy Gramham said once, "I not only believe every word is true, I also believe the leather is genuine" I love that!
It is our manufacture's instruction manual.

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Old 06-29-2008, 09:11 AM
 
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No one has answered any of the questions yet. Just an observation.
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Old 06-29-2008, 10:14 AM
 
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I am curious as to how many of you as Christians really have a comprehensive knowledge of the world in which the portions of the Bible was written. Do you take into account the political and religious climate of the day? Do you know what else was going on in the region as certain biblical stories and/or characters supposedly occurred/lived? You read of the Egyptians, the Canaanites, the Babylonians and Persians in your bibles, but have you ever looked into those cultures to see if they might have had any influence on religious doctrines and/or stories in the bible? How about the "400 silent years," the so-called non revelation years between the end of the Old Testament book of Malachi and the New Testament book of Matthew, a time that when looked into goes a VERY long way in shedding valuable light on things found in the New Testament?

What about Greek influence (Hellenism) and it's effect on Jewish philosophy leading up to the times of the New Testament represented in prominent and influential Jewish thinkers like Philo?

Does ANY of this matter to you or do you feel that your religion developed within a vacuum, completely oblivious to and uninfluenced by outside sources? Do you feel your religion is completely divinely inspired , case closed? Do you feel completely honest in such a response WITHOUT checking other possible facts? I'm truly curious.
The middle eastern beliefs were a mix of myth and legend in Arabia, to following the Torah, Psalms and other books of Judaism by the Caananites.
Up until the advent of Jesus. Many Samarians and Palestinians and Syrians became Christians.


Most of the middle east, babylonians had fables and polytheism that carried on until the Quran, which was said to be recited by Gabriel to Muhammed.

The stories of Aladin's lamp and monsters, and creatures that we see in Disney stories and other reproductions come from those tales that were passed down, and altered from the time of the "silent yrs".

Which were not so silent for the Prophets in Judaism and the ancestors of Jesus.

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Old 06-30-2008, 12:13 AM
 
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Does ANY of this matter to you or do you feel that your religion developed within a vacuum, completely oblivious to and uninfluenced by outside sources?
Of course there were human/cultural influences, just as today. Believe it or not - some of us 'believers' are well studied and know that the bible is not an infallible book.

Since I met/know God outside the bible I don't need/want it to be infallible, which obviously it isn't.

There is though an inspired message there for those with 'ears to hear'.

It is not a literal book - but a book of metaphors and mysteries (as well as practicality).

blessings,
- Byron

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Old 06-30-2008, 12:54 AM
 
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I am curious as to how many of you as Christians really have a comprehensive knowledge of the world in which the portions of the Bible was written. Do you take into account the political and religious climate of the day? Do you know what else was going on in the region as certain biblical stories and/or characters supposedly occurred/lived? You read of the Egyptians, the Canaanites, the Babylonians and Persians in your bibles, but have you ever looked into those cultures to see if they might have had any influence on religious doctrines and/or stories in the bible? How about the "400 silent years," the so-called non revelation years between the end of the Old Testament book of Malachi and the New Testament book of Matthew, a time that when looked into goes a VERY long way in shedding valuable light on things found in the New Testament?

What about Greek influence (Hellenism) and it's effect on Jewish philosophy leading up to the times of the New Testament represented in prominent and influential Jewish thinkers like Philo?

Does ANY of this matter to you or do you feel that your religion developed within a vacuum, completely oblivious to and uninfluenced by outside sources? Do you feel your religion is completely divinely inspired , case closed? Do you feel completely honest in such a response WITHOUT checking other possible facts? I'm truly curious.

1. Yes! Completely sold out For Christ. He said it, I believe it! Don't need to rip it apart, nor dissect it!

2. Not religion, relationship with my Saviour Christ Jesus!

3. Biblical truths. That's it!

Your sister in Christ Jesus
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Old 06-30-2008, 03:33 PM
 
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Of course there were human/cultural influences, just as today. Believe it or not - some of us 'believers' are well studied and know that the bible is not an infallible book.

Since I met/know God outside the bible I don't need/want it to be infallible, which obviously it isn't.

There is though an inspired message there for those with 'ears to hear'.

It is not a literal book - but a book of metaphors and mysteries (as well as practicality).

blessings,
- Byron
I've seen you post similar things in other threads but maybe I've missed (or maybe you've never explained completely) which parts of the Bible you think are metaphorical, which parts are mystical, which parts are literal, ect. How do you know which parts to take literally and which parts are not literal? I'm just curious about your beliefs and would appreciate it if you could explain them in a bit more detail. Thank you!
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