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07-23-2008, 01:05 AM
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I <3 Thai Iced Tea
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Originally Posted by DayoftheLord
Well, I think you should marry Macinac81.  He's a Christian, the right age, and definitely has the right attitude. 
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lol.
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Originally Posted by DayoftheLord
I know you're looking for men's perspectives about intimidation, but I think you're getting answers within answers.
If you feel God is leading you to focus on your education, then that is what you should do.
There's a flip side to something kmc said, though. That his friends have regrets about pursuing the education and not a relationship.
Well, I regret pursuing the relationships (two failed marriages) and not the education!!! See how that works? It's what's right for you, my dear.
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Thanks, Day!  I fully recognize that being busy with school makes me less available for serious relationships (but I haven't turned away any relationships because of school). And, I recognize that my parents always told me to finish school first before I got into a serious relationship.Well, when all is said and done, I'll be 32 when I finish. 
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07-23-2008, 02:10 AM
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I guess I never understood the point of spending all this time and money on schooling when God calls us to be keepers at home.
Unless He calls you to a life of being single then I would think it would be in serving Him not a career. A man following God's will, will be seeking a woman to be his helpmeet not his head or co-equal.
Tts 2:5[To be] discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
Seek the Lord on this, a man should be seeking a wife not the other way around. He will bring someone in His time, probably when you least expect it 
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07-23-2008, 05:49 AM
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I <3 Thai Iced Tea
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Maybe you could serve him through career? The two are not mutually exclusive.
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Apparently, they are.
And, apparently, my parents have failed at getting me a husband .. and paying all my bills. If I'm supposed to be "the keeper" -- who is keeping me? My parents?
I don't understand why I should be the keeper of my home when it is just me. No kids. No pets. No husband. No adoptive children. What else should I be doing, OnOurWay2MO? But, what if, and this is a great idea, I wanted to get my PhD (for free, mind you) while I was single and then never use it? Would that be a waste?
And where is the responsibility of women to protect themselves? I can't guarantee a future husband won't die, be maimed, be laid off ... what if I had to become the sole breadwinner? Wouldn't my education come in handy then?
There is more to education than a career. It's about the love of learning.
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07-23-2008, 06:03 AM
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Michigander in Exile
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I guess I never understood the point of spending all this time and money on schooling when God calls us to be keepers at home.
Unless He calls you to a life of being single then I would think it would be in serving Him not a career. A man following God's will, will be seeking a woman to be his helpmeet not his head or co-equal.
Tts 2:5[To be] discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
Seek the Lord on this, a man should be seeking a wife not the other way around. He will bring someone in His time, probably when you least expect it
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Well, I still think education is extremely important. It tells me, in a very visible way that a woman wants to improve her mind, and it also gives her skills that she can use in case something happen to me or my job. All of my friends wives have some job training because of this. Now, if I had children, I'd DEFINITELY want my wife to give the kids the highest priority. (I feel I didn't clarify that in my last post) But I see nothing wrong with my wife working while the kids are at school, or after they've left home. Many women work in schools or work part time in a shop during the day.
I also don't think that a woman working outside the home--or even having a career--somehow makes her my "co-equal" or "superior". I don't find my masculinity threatened by a woman's ability to earn money. As long as the kids are the priority then I have no problem if...
"She considers a field and buys it; out of her earnings she plants a vineyard"--Proverbs 31:16
or if...
She makes linen garments and sells them, and supplies the merchants with sashes"--Proverbs 31:24

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07-23-2008, 06:08 AM
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Michigander in Exile
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And where is the responsibility of women to protect themselves? I can't guarantee a future husband won't die, be maimed, be laid off ... what if I had to become the sole breadwinner? Wouldn't my education come in handy then?
There is more to education than a career. It's about the love of learning.
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Exactly, very good thinking truckzter. One of my professors was a housewife and works at my univerisity part time. She got her Phd five months after having twins. She's super busy, but she manages and seems to thrive on it. So both can be done successfully
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07-23-2008, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by truckzter
Apparently, they are.
And, apparently, my parents have failed at getting me a husband .. and paying all my bills. If I'm supposed to be "the keeper" -- who is keeping me? My parents?
I don't understand why I should be the keeper of my home when it is just me. No kids. No pets. No husband. No adoptive children. What else should I be doing, OnOurWay2MO? But, what if, and this is a great idea, I wanted to get my PhD (for free, mind you) while I was single and then never use it? Would that be a waste?
And where is the responsibility of women to protect themselves? I can't guarantee a future husband won't die, be maimed, be laid off ... what if I had to become the sole breadwinner? Wouldn't my education come in handy then?
There is more to education than a career. It's about the love of learning.
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God's word teaches that a father is to keep his daughter until she is wed. Many fathers these days have done away with it because they are following the world and not what God says.
If you have saught the Lord and He has told you to remain single then I would do everything in serving Him by serving others. For example I wanted to be a missionary before I was married but God had other plans.
As far as needing your career in the future. We are not to worry about what if's. God will take care of us no matter what the circumstances if we rely on Him. There is always blessings in obeying Him but consequences if we don't.
I have a love of learning, I learn right along with homeschooling my children
Mackinac81, the proverbs 31 woman was a keeper at home, a keeper at home can make things and sell them on the side. There is a huge difference in leaving your home for a career than making things at home and selling them.
I see this thread going into so many different issues lol, so I will leave it at that. Just know what we think God has called us to will never contradict what His word teaches us. Blessings
http://www.thechristianwoman.com/chr...ther-work.html
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07-23-2008, 12:44 PM
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just a pilgrim
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Originally Posted by truckzter
One of the places I have ministry is in the classroom. I may not be a missionary in Tibet, but I am an image of Christ in a institution that is shockingly devoid of Christian influence.
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I think, too, that you have a calling! If that is where you feel God is leading you, that is the place for you. The image of Christ is so needed today..
I once heard someone say that life is like a hallway with a series of "rooms". A door opens, we enter a room. We need to work in the room until the next door opens. Maybe I'm getting off topic here, but I'd say just work in the room you're in right now, and other doors will eventually open for you. 
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07-23-2008, 02:31 PM
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Michigander in Exile
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God's word teaches that a father is to keep his daughter until she is wed. Many fathers these days have done away with it because they are following the world and not what God says.
If you have saught the Lord and He has told you to remain single then I would do everything in serving Him by serving others. For example I wanted to be a missionary before I was married but God had other plans.
As far as needing your career in the future. We are not to worry about what if's. God will take care of us no matter what the circumstances if we rely on Him. There is always blessings in obeying Him but consequences if we don't.
I have a love of learning, I learn right along with homeschooling my children
Mackinac81, the proverbs 31 woman was a keeper at home, a keeper at home can make things and sell them on the side. There is a huge difference in leaving your home for a career than making things at home and selling them.
I see this thread going into so many different issues lol, so I will leave it at that. Just know what we think God has called us to will never contradict what His word teaches us. Blessings
http://www.thechristianwoman.com/chr...ther-work.html (broken link)
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Well, I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree then. At the end of the day we're all christians anyway...
Gratiaque Pax
(Grace and Peace)
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07-23-2008, 03:08 PM
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Warrior Princess
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lol.
Thanks, Day!  I fully recognize that being busy with school makes me less available for serious relationships (but I haven't turned away any relationships because of school). And, I recognize that my parents always told me to finish school first before I got into a serious relationship.Well, when all is said and done, I'll be 32 when I finish. 
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Trust me, 32 is still VERY young. 
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07-23-2008, 03:14 PM
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Warrior Princess
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Originally Posted by truckzter
Apparently, they are.
And, apparently, my parents have failed at getting me a husband .. and paying all my bills. If I'm supposed to be "the keeper" -- who is keeping me? My parents?
I don't understand why I should be the keeper of my home when it is just me. No kids. No pets. No husband. No adoptive children. What else should I be doing, OnOurWay2MO? But, what if, and this is a great idea, I wanted to get my PhD (for free, mind you) while I was single and then never use it? Would that be a waste?
And where is the responsibility of women to protect themselves? I can't guarantee a future husband won't die, be maimed, be laid off ... what if I had to become the sole breadwinner? Wouldn't my education come in handy then?
There is more to education than a career. It's about the love of learning.
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And there you have it. What if your husband dies when you have 5 little ones running around? What if he just turns out to be a jerk and leaves you? What if, what if? It is downright foolish for a woman not to be educated before anything else. Ugh....what an antiquated way of thinking.  
Get that education. You can do BOTH.
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