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Old 07-24-2008, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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I am super stoked at the idea of this, but in the same breath I wonder what does this mean? How do I become a passionate follower of Christ? Whats your take?
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:59 AM
 
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passionate def...
Capable of, having, or dominated by powerful emotions
Showing or expressing strong emotion

relationship def..
The condition or fact of being related; connection or association.
Connection by blood or marriage; kinship.
A particular type of connection existing between people related to or having dealings with each other: has a close relationship with his siblings

Imho, a close relationship with Christ with equal a passionate follower of Christ. The closer you are to someone the more passionate you are about them.
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Old 07-24-2008, 11:10 AM
 
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If the Passion Play in the Philippines is the standard for being a passionate follower of Jesus, count me out.

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It all starts in the blistering mid-day heat, from the church in the small village of nearby San Pedro Cutud, where a procession of young men have their backs lacerated with broken glass before they walk, beating themselves with bamboo whips until their backs are truly bloody. Then the kristos, carrying heavy wooden crucifixes and wearing crowns of thorns, are herded down the roads by Filipinos dressed as Roman soldiers. Flagellation is an old catholic practice designed to purge oneself of sin, and the culmination of the day could be seen as a natural extension of this practice (it was so common and deaths through blood loss so widespread the Filipino authorities banned self-whipping in the 1700s).
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Then three hammers rose, a hush descended and three hammers fell. A dull thudding noise was all that signified the piercing of their flesh. Cheers rang out, and the hammers rose again. My stomach churned, but I pushed forward, wanting to confront my fear and look into the faces of the others. The looks on the men were blank, perhaps from the trance or to avoid showing pain. I know I would have been screaming by then, prayers or no. They were then hoisted into an upright position and the true crucifixion began.

Source: Passion Play in the Philippines - Tangent E-zine Online Travel Magazine | Article Archive - HotelTravel.com
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Old 07-24-2008, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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If the Passion Play in the Philippines is the standard for being a passionate follower of Jesus, count me out.
This is not what I ment at all. But, since you brought it up, this is what Christ Jesus went through for our sins, and to have a love so endless to endure this all for me, I am not worthy..... it breaks my heart everytime I read about it in my bible or when I see the movie. Crushes me.....amazing what He endured for my sins.....
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Old 07-24-2008, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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I am super stoked at the idea of this, but in the same breath I wonder what does this mean? How do I become a passionate follower of Christ? Whats your take?
It is defined in the 1st commandment, Love with all.

As well be thankful for all things.

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 07-24-2008, 11:41 AM
 
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But, since you brought it up, this is what Christ Jesus went through for our sins
The difference between the suffering of Jesus and those who participate in the Passion Play in the Philippines is that Jesus not only suffered but also died.
The people in the Passion Play only suffer.
What is the point of just suffering for a few hours (or a day)?
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Old 07-24-2008, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Originally Posted by snglfmlThe difference between the suffering of Jesus and those who participate in the Passion Play in the Philippines is that Jesus not only suffered but also died.
The people in the Passion Play only suffer.
What is the point of just suffering for a few hours (or a day)?
Apparently they are stuck in the idea that have to sacrifice them selves to be free of sin....? just a guess.
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Old 07-24-2008, 02:07 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Apparently they are stuck in the idea that have to sacrifice them selves to be free of sin....?
That you can only be free of sin when you suffer?
Wouldn't that mean that they would be drawn to becoming willing victims of an abusive relationships?

Besides a week after the crucifixion they will start sinning again, simply because they still aren't perfect human beings.
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Old 07-24-2008, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Originally Posted by snglfmlThat you can only be free of sin when you suffer?
Wouldn't that mean that they would be drawn to becoming willing victims of an abusive relationships?

Besides a week after the crucifixion they will start sinning again, simply because they still aren't perfect human beings.
it doesn't make sense to me.... it was just a guess.... anyone else know anything about this?
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Texas
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When I saw the thread title out of the corner of my eye I thought it said "Passionate Flower of Christ"

I would say let the life of God bloom inside you. Water the plant, give it plenty of sunshine. The soil has already proven to be good soil.

Blessings,
- Byron
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