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I have a scenerio for all of you who are so quick to make the "right to life" decision for someone else:
Your wife is pregnant with your first child. Something that you have dreamed about for a very long time. Maybe even your whole life (as my husband did). You are at your first sonogram and you see the heartbeat. The doctor tells the nurse that before you leave he needs to see you in his office. You sit comforably in his office clutching the picture of your new baby. It's not much to look at for now, but in just 32 more weeks you will be holding your first child. A miracle of God. The doctor comes in and tells you that there appears to be some complications. He states that your child is healthy but if your wife were to carry the child to term, she would surely lose her life. You will have a beautiful healthy child, but your wife will die. He also tells you that he is 85% sure that if you were to disrupt this pregnancy now, you will be able to conceive again and have no complications. I wonder if you are able to quickly make this decision.
PS: No matter how many 2nd opinions you get, this is still the outcome.
Are you positive that you will stand by your 'right to life' choice?
I've always wondered what i would do in this scenario, i'm very curious about it, and so i have a few questions.
1)In this Scenario would it be at all possible for the mother to give birth before term and assist the child with life support to spare both lives?
2)What medical condition would put the mothers life in such danger?
I don't ask to be confrontational, i'm just genuinely interested.
I've always wondered what i would do in this scenario, i'm very curious about it, and so i have a few questions.
1)In this Scenario would it be at all possible for the mother to give birth before term and assist the child with life support to spare both lives?
2)What medical condition would put the mothers life in such danger?
I don't ask to be confrontational, i'm just genuinely interested.
I don't have a clue. I doubt that there is such a situation. I just can't imagine how other people can sit back and make such decisions for others. I just want to provoke a little thought and self reflection. Then perhaps, some conversation.
In my scenario, no there is no chance for both lives to be spared.
Being that I have two in-laws as nurses and one as a clinical nurse, they claim that about the only way for a baby to put a mothers life in danger is invitro fertilization or by artifical insemination causing quads or more.
With todays technology and availability to medical care, the only natural way is invitro, which is almost non-existant in the US, and very, very rare in world.
Most all "life of the mother" situations and arguements are falling into basic catagories:
Dr's who 'cya' because of lawsuits by patients who have less than perfect baby
Organizations who financially benifit from preforming\counseling for abortions
Doctors who financially benifit from preforming abortions
Traumatized young women
Those who genuinely believe we evolved, therefore we not much better than a ape
First thing and foremost I would have every person I know praying and I would be asking for the whole situation to be covered with prayer and fasting.
My prayer would be that God would give the wisdom and grace to endure at this time! For everyone involved....
I know that my hb and I would make the decision to induce labor and let God make the decision for the baby and my life... His grace will sustain us in what He chooses for both of us...
If it is God's will for either one of us or both to leave this world, no matter what anyone would try to do, they can not stop God's decision.
I know my hb would not have the baby aborted to save my life.... if I'm not conscience to make the decision with him! He knows my heart and would know I would want to induce the labor, that no matter what an abortion is out of the question. Because my hb knows my deep love and relationship with our God.
And something just tells me in my heart, because of honoring God's will, and trusting Him for the outcome, He would bless us with the miracle that would surprise so many....
First thing and foremost I would have every person I know praying and I would be asking for the whole situation to be covered with prayer and fasting.
My prayer would be that God would give the wisdom and grace to endure at this time! For everyone involved....
I know that my hb and I would make the decision to induce labor and let God make the decision for the baby and my life... His grace will sustain us in what He chooses for both of us...
If it is God's will for either one of us or both to leave this world, no matter what anyone would try to do, they can not stop God's decision.
I know my hb would not have the baby aborted to save my life.... if I'm not conscience to make the decision with him! He knows my heart and would know I would want to induce the labor, that no matter what an abortion is out of the question. Because my hb knows my deep love and relationship with our God.
And something just tells me in my heart, because of honoring God's will, and trusting Him for the outcome, He would bless us with the miracle that would surprise so many....
Blessings....
Thank you for your answer, Curly. I am sure that God honors your faithfulness.
I have a scenerio for all of you who are so quick to make the "right to life" decision for someone else:
Your wife is pregnant with your first child. Something that you have dreamed about for a very long time. Maybe even your whole life (as my husband did). You are at your first sonogram and you see the heartbeat. The doctor tells the nurse that before you leave he needs to see you in his office. You sit comforably in his office clutching the picture of your new baby. It's not much to look at for now, but in just 32 more weeks you will be holding your first child. A miracle of God. The doctor comes in and tells you that there appears to be some complications. He states that your child is healthy but if your wife were to carry the child to term, she would surely lose her life. You will have a beautiful healthy child, but your wife will die. He also tells you that he is 85% sure that if you were to disrupt this pregnancy now, you will be able to conceive again and have no complications. I wonder if you are able to quickly make this decision.
PS: No matter how many 2nd opinions you get, this is still the outcome.
Are you positive that you will stand by your 'right to life' choice?
This has already been addressed, but again, there have been many such scenarios and the doctors have been wrong.
Are you going to trust God or the doctor?
I believe this is where many people have gone array. This country/world has twisted the normalcy of birth. Not to say there could never be a problem, but read on...
Let's think about how Jesus came into this world. No doctors, no ultrasounds, no amnio, etc. etc.
Do you not think our Heavenly Father will bless us with the same? My daughter and I are proof that He does!
God is the Great Physician!
I trust if God lets a new life develope in me that He will determine the outcome for the child and me.
1Ti 2:15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
I trust if God lets a new life develope in me that He will determine the outcome for the child and me.
Maybe God will choose to abort the child...as in miscarriage. How many miscarriages could have been wonderful human beings, dearly loved and cherished?
If a human soul or life begins at conception, then surely God is the greatest murderer of all. If it is His will that someone becomes pregnant, as put forward earlier on this thread, then it must be His will that that life is terminated.
If a human soul or life begins at conception, then surely God is the greatest murderer of all. If it is His will that someone becomes pregnant, as put forward earlier on this thread, then it must be His will that that life is terminated.
Only the devil is a murderer, not God. To even think that is not evenly remotely christian.
To accuse or think that of God can only be summed up this way: "That's pretty big talk for small britches"
I don't think God is involved in the outcome of these matters. As sad as it seems...some honest hearted people who pray earnestly still undergo an emotional and physical trial as a miscarriage or an unhealthy baby. That's is similar to saying that someone who survived a tragic accident that took the lives of others was saved by God...did the others not deserve saving?
I think God watches to see how we will handle these situations.
I have a scenerio for all of you who are so quick to make the "right to life" decision for someone else:
Your wife is pregnant with your first child. Something that you have dreamed about for a very long time. Maybe even your whole life (as my husband did). You are at your first sonogram and you see the heartbeat. The doctor tells the nurse that before you leave he needs to see you in his office. You sit comforably in his office clutching the picture of your new baby. It's not much to look at for now, but in just 32 more weeks you will be holding your first child. A miracle of God. The doctor comes in and tells you that there appears to be some complications. He states that your child is healthy but if your wife were to carry the child to term, she would surely lose her life. You will have a beautiful healthy child, but your wife will die. He also tells you that he is 85% sure that if you were to disrupt this pregnancy now, you will be able to conceive again and have no complications. I wonder if you are able to quickly make this decision.
PS: No matter how many 2nd opinions you get, this is still the outcome.
Are you positive that you will stand by your 'right to life' choice?
I would let my wife make that choice. Would she set aside her life for our unborn child? That would be her decision.
I am "pro-choice" when it comes to one person laying down their life for another. Women have the right to decide if they will make that ultimate sacrifice. However, no one has the right to decide that their convenience is more valuable than a life. We as a society (should) value life over inconvenience or financial hardship.
FWIW: If the doctor said my wife would die and the child would survive, but I could save my wife by giving her my heart, I would do so in an instant. I am willing to give up my life for those I love, which includes my unborn children.
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