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Old 04-15-2009, 05:54 PM
 
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But if you read Chapter 5 in Genesis, Cain is not even mentioned in the lineage of Adam. So he must be born of Satan.

3 She was deceived. She thought it was right. But, "Adam was not deceived," said the Bible. He knowed it was wrong. And she had him to do the same thing that the beast had done, and she brought forth her first son, which all the traits of the devil was in that boy. He was a murderer; he was jealous. How could it come from that pure stream of God? It had to come from the evil. And as soon as he did this, then he... The devil used his tool. She brought forth her second son which was after Adam, and in there was Abel. And right quick the devil tried to destroy that righteous seed. And he turned around and slew Abel to begin with which was type of Judas and Jesus. Slew him at the altar, to where Jesus--Judas slew--slew Jesus, betrayed Him for thirty pieces of silver and sold Him. All right. But, notice, when he did that then God, a type of Christ, both death and resurrection, He raised up Seth to take his place. See? And the devil took after Seth. Now, watch. Along before the antediluvian destruction, there was a long lineage of men who came down through the sons of Cain from the land of Nod, and they were scientists: smart, intelligent, marvelous men. They even tempered metals. They built homes. They were a marvelous civilization. The Bible goes ahead, and said how they worked with copper, how they worked with metal. But this other group was wanderers. But both groups was religious

Cain was religious. Abel was religious. And God drawed a line which was right. Cain was just as religious as Abel. They both built altars. They both believed in God. They both worshipped God. They both brought gifts. Now, watch them two seeds: One's fighting, the evil's tried to destroy the righteous seed. And he tried to destroy Abel. He did. But, God raised up Seth to take his place. He thought he had Jesus right there. Look down through the age everywhere, he... Ever place he come, he cornered that seed. When he slew one or the other, he thought he had that. And finally, he--he took after John the Baptist. Finally, cut his head off. He thought he had him then; but he found out he was over here in Jesus. He slew all the babies. And Moses, he tried to kill Moses. He tried every way he could to destroy that seed. And when he killed Christ at Calvary, but God raised Him up again the third day. And then He sent the Holy Ghost back to call sons, daughters of God. And that same evil, religious seed is persecuting that righteous seed yet today. You see it? They're trying to destroy that righteous branch of God. Now, both sides, if you notice, is started in Genesis religious. On both sides, one of them denominational, high-minded, and the other one humble, walking in the Spirit by revelation. How could Abel ever know that it was a lamb instead of fruits from the field?

Because it was revealed to him by a Divine revelation. Jesus said the same when Peter confessed Him to be the--the Son of God. He said, "Flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father which is in heaven has revealed this to you. Upon this rock (The rock, not Peter, not Jesus, but on the Divine revelation) I'll build My church and the gates of hell cannot prevail against it." You get it? It's Divine revelation. Now watch, every epoch of time, there, they met face to face and fought it out. Look at when Moab was up on the hill and Israel was in the valley. And Israel only asked him as a brother gentleman to pass through their land, going to the promised land, that God had promised them, only asked for a little revival in their church as it were. Just to pass through the land and promise they would even pay for the grass that the cattle licked up. And they would go by the king's highway, and the things that they would do as they passed through the lands... And they would make it right. But, jealousy... Now, Moab, the land of Moab was not infidelic.

They were believing in the same God that Israel believed in, for they were the sons of Lot's daughters, Lot's daughter who conceived while Lot was drunk by her own father. And he went over and they fought--that's where these Moabs sprung from. And when their prophet come out, their teacher, money crazed, and set at the altar, seven altars exactly the same amount of altars was required down here. Here's Moab setting here, the great fine denominational land all fixed and figured. And here was Israel, a little old holy-roller wandering about in tents from place to place. You say, "A holy-roller?" They sure was. If they--if they're what they call today holy-roller. When they crossed the Red Sea, and God performed a miracle in front of them, Miriam grabbed a tambourine, and begin beating the tambourine, and running down the banks screaming, and jumping, and dancing in the Spirit; and the daughters of Israel followed her, jumping, screaming, dancing in the Spirit. And Moses stood with his hands up, perhaps singing in a language that nobody had ever heard before, a song that nobody could understand. He sung to the Lord in the Spirit. If that isn't modern holy-rollers, I don't know where to look for them. They had signs and wonders with them. Now, if God only respects the fundamental...

Looky here, Moab scripturally speaking was just as fundamental as Israel was. He had everything that Israel had. He had seven altars. That's what God required. Israel had seven altars. He had seven clean sacrifices. Israel had seven clean sacrifices. There's Cain and Abel again. See? All right. He offered seven bullocks. He offered seven bullocks. He offered seven rams, speaking they believed that Christ would come. He offered seven rams, the same thing. Just as fundamental as fundamental could be. Cain built an altar. Abel built an altar. Cain offered a sacrifice. Abel offered a sacrifice. Abel worshipped; Cain worshipped. But God vindicated, proved that Abel was His choice. God proved here that Israel was His choice, for Israel had a Supernatural in their camp. Although, of all their mistakes, they had a Pillar of Fire following them. They had an atonement for Divine healing and practiced Divine healing. A serpent, they had a smitten rock. They had signs and wonders in the camp. When John came, he was supernatural. When Jesus came, It was supernatural.

And the enemy on the fundamental side always persecuted the supernatural. You see what He's trying to do today? The same thing: "Blot out Divine healing, blot out these people. There's nothing to them. The dignitary's the great people. Blot it out." Brother, it's nothing but that vine twisting through Genesis coming into Revelation. I take my side with the holy-rollers. Let it be whatever... I never seen a holy-roller. That's a name that the devil put on the Church of God when it don't belong there. They are not holy-rollers; they are sons and daughters of God misunderstood by the world. Now, Joseph was borned of the--his father, and was loved of his father, and hated of his brethren. Now, notice, perfect picture of the Lord Jesus... I want you to notice how His life just types. In the Old Testament everything typed now. Look back there and see the picture; there's a shadow and you see what the positive is. Now notice, Joseph being a type of Christ, a type of the Church, type of the Holy Spirit, type... He was a prince of prosperity, just as Christ is, just as the Church today. Notice again, that when he was born, his father loved him, and he made him a coat of many colors. Now, there's only seven perfect colors in all colors. All others are made off these colors. And the coat, perhaps, had colors in it of seven different colors, stripes of colors into the coat that the father made
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Old 04-16-2009, 12:14 AM
 
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1st John ch 3 vs 12

Not as cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother, And wherefore slew he him? because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

I would guess..Satan?
since every deed that is done in darkness is a spirit, if he was influenced by a bad spirit to kill his brother, then he was of his father the devil...
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Old 04-16-2009, 01:03 PM
 
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Cain's biological father was Adam.
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Old 04-16-2009, 01:34 PM
 
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Adam. But, he also fathered a daughter named Candy (those details are unimportant), and fathered a son by the name of Cain and, of course, Abel. Candy was the "black sheep" of the family and was frequently left out of many of the genealogy texts about them as Cain and Abel's story tends to dominate most of history. What biblical historians do know about Candy and Cain is that they were actually quite inseparable. So much so that when people saw them skipping rope down the streets of Eden, they often referred to them both by name but as one individual. Thus, the name "Candy-Cain" was born.

Last edited by GCSTroop; 04-16-2009 at 01:42 PM.. Reason: Oops... I just realized it was impossible for Adam to "give birth."
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