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You can pick one up here, but it is pricey. I paid $300 for mine, and it was a exact photocopy page for page off the original. But this was 15 years ago,,
How many people were put to death for having a copy of the Scriptures in the 1800's and 1900's? (Besides China.)
Actually during this time period, it was the people who were in posession of the "Authorized King James Version" that did the butchering to those natives who were indigenous to colonies they took posession of. I'm mean how dare those heathens ocuppy and live on Christian British and American soil before they got there.
Funny, but when most churches taught from the original languages, there were fewer divisions within the Church, and the divisions were not as extreme.
Well you just have to remember that it was foretold by the Apostles themselves that the Great Apostasy would come after they died. While they were present, they were able to warn and keep divisions in check. But it could only last so long.
You don’t seem to understand much about the history of the English language. The AKJ was published in 1611, which was well into the period known as Modern English. Old English dates to the period before the Norman Conquest, which began in 1066. Old English, i.e. Saxon, is as different from Modern English (and the English of the AKJ) as modern English is from modern German.
Furthermore, much of the English of the AKJ had not been in general use for several centuries before 1611. The pronouns thee, thy, ye, etcetera reflect a time when English had separate forms of “you” to indicate singular and plural antecedents as well as formal and informal forms of address. Modern languages like German as well as Hebrew and Koine Greek have multiple forms of the pronoun you. The translators used the older English pronouns because the modern pronoun “you” does not accurately convey the grammar of the Bible’s original Greek and Hebrew. Modern English uses “you” to mean both singular and plural; this is “standard” English, but it is only a matter of convenience. Thee, thy and thine are no longer used to indicate singular 2nd person pronouns, but in many dialects of English the pronoun “you” is used in place of these earlier singular pronouns while plural 2nd person antecedents are represented by expressions such as “yous”, “yous guys”, “yaw”, “yaw’ll” and “yins”. I don’t know of a single post-1611 translation that accurately indicates when “you” is singular as opposed to plural.
BTW: the –eth and –est verb endings that are found in the AKJ were going out of use in spoken English by the time the AKJ was printed. But the printing industry had not kept up with spoken English. It was common for people to see “readeth” in print but say “reads” when they read the passage out loud.
Once again, I'm not going to debate your cut and paste. Maybe this will help.
1 Timothy 6:4 "Authorized King James Version"
Quote:
Originally Posted by King James Bible
"He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of wordswhereof cometh envy, strifes, railings, evil surmisings".
Sorry but that was actually rude. My God, the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob, who sent His Son Jesus to die on behalf of the world is far from puny. I said that unless it is REVEALED, than the carnal mind cannot comprehend the Spiritual things of God, EVEN THE WRITTEN WORD. The Pharisees of the day could do no better, while the Son was in their presence.
I stand by what I said. You claim that humans cannot understand the Bible because the Bible is spiritual while humans are carnal. I didn’t see where you gave God any option of making humans spiritual enough to understand the Bible.
Is the 1599 Geneva still in print or is it a collectors bible? It would be great to read the margin notes.
godspeed,
freedom
The Geneva Bible was the preferred translation for the Puritans, but this was mainly because of its marginal notes that were included to buck up Puritanism. The Geneva Bible went out of print during the Commonwealth. When Oliver Cromwell was tasked with authorizing a translation he choose the AKJ, but for a while the Geneva Bible's marginal notes were included with printings of the AKJ. I don't remember where I found it, but a good while ago I found a website that had an e-copy of the Geneva Bible. But, my arthritis is so bad that I cannot spend time on line to read it.
I stand by what I said. You claim that humans cannot understand the Bible because the Bible is spiritual while humans are carnal. I didn’t see where you gave God any option of making humans spiritual enough to understand the Bible.
I have actually said it in every post, but like the Pharisees of that day, you aren't listening, so how could you hear? IT MUST BE REVEALED, BY GOD!
2Pe 1:20 But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is of one's own interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.
And if you think that "prophecy" is just the future events and not the spoken Words of any prophet, you would, in fact, be wrong.
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My God, the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob, who sent His Son Jesus to die on behalf of the world is far from puny. I said that unless it is REVEALED, than the carnal mind cannot comprehend the Spiritual things of God, EVEN THE WRITTEN WORD. The Pharisees of the day could do no better, while the Son was in their presence.
