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Old 08-19-2008, 11:23 AM
 
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Can someone define idolatry for me?

When does something become an idol?

Can church be an idol?

Can works?

Bibles?

Crosses?

I read a post that said when a person picked a church, the version of the bible they were reading was more important than if they were functioning as ordained by God.

Your thoughts?

And, by the way, it's OK to veer off topic on particular issues if necessary, just every once in a while someone reel it back in for me.
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Old 08-19-2008, 12:01 PM
 
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Idolatry would be the worship (lifting up in one's mind and heart) a given person or object.

It is coupled with emotions towards the subject/object.

When we take any emotion and break it down to its core, it is energy. The energy or vibration that we attach to a given word or action is the reality of the situation. Everyone has felt the power of hatred or anger coming at them, we hopefully have all felt the power/energy of love.

Worship is no different, it has a vibrational finger print that can be felt by the one worshipping and those that are around the worshippers. Sometimes it is felt as a rush, sometimes goosebumps, sometimes tears, or a lightness, or heaviness, depending on the nature of the energy being generated or received.

So to worship an object takes someone putting their thoughts and emotions into that object and acting in a manner that raises it or them above others and other things.
Sometimes it is exhibited when someone scratches our car, or loses a cherishable item. How do we react, do we love the object more than a child of God?

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 08-19-2008, 12:01 PM
 
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I think any of those things CAN be an idol, but non necessarily are. To me it becomes Idolatry when you raise the importance of these things above the importance of God. If a Cross, Painting, Church helps you feel closer to God great, when it becomes a barrier and you focus on the thing, then I think you have made it an Idol.
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Old 08-19-2008, 12:03 PM
 
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Can someone define idolatry for me?

When does something become an idol?

Can church be an idol?

Can works?

Bibles?

Crosses?

I read a post that said when a person picked a church, the version of the bible they were reading was more important than if they were functioning as ordained by God.

Your thoughts?

And, by the way, it's OK to veer off topic on particular issues if necessary, just every once in a while someone reel it back in for me.
All of the above can definitely become an idol. Idolatry starts with loving, honoring, and trusting any thing more than God.
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Old 08-19-2008, 12:44 PM
 
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Can someone define idolatry for me?

When does something become an idol?

Can church be an idol?

Can works?

Bibles?

Crosses?

I read a post that said when a person picked a church, the version of the bible they were reading was more important than if they were functioning as ordained by God.

Your thoughts?

And, by the way, it's OK to veer off topic on particular issues if necessary, just every once in a while someone reel it back in for me.
Col 3:5Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:

If anything takes the place of Christ in our lives it becomes idolatry.

Anything on earth can be an idol.

How can one attend a church that you know teaches from a corrupt version that has satans fingerprints all over it? Can you say that church is really functioning as ordained by God when they are blaspheming God's word?

How is there a great falling away when most "christians" think they are walking in the truth? The falling away will continue to worsen until Jesus returns. The multiple versions is confusion that satan has brought about.

Thank you for clarifying about veering off topic. I wonder why I am always being told not to be off topic then Guess I'll take your word for it Alpha lol.
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Old 08-19-2008, 12:53 PM
 
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How can one attend a church that you know teaches from a corrupt version that has satans fingerprints all over it?
No one does. You would think that about my church, I would think that about yours(well metaphorically- I don't really believe in a physical satan). Others would think it about both of ours. If you think your church teaches corruption you leave. But others might think it about your church, and if you don't, you wouldn't leave.
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Old 08-19-2008, 01:02 PM
 
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No one does. You would think that about my church, I would think that about yours(well metaphorically- I don't really believe in a physical satan). Others would think it about both of ours. If you think your church teaches corruption you leave. But others might think it about your church, and if you don't, you wouldn't leave.
Well if we study history it tells us a lot. Do a study on the Alexandrian manuscripts and then we can talk.

You can't say that about my "church" because I don't go to a "church", I follow God, not any man or denomination.

By the way I don't worship or put any version above Christ, the Spirit is what has always led me and He led me when I was seeking what version He wanted me reading.
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Old 08-19-2008, 01:13 PM
 
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Can works?
Yes, there are many things that wish to draw our attention away from Christ. Regarding the above statement, I agree that works can be a big thing, because it appeals to our pride. But there is a danger of being so turned off by works and legalism that we idolize "liberty and free living" and forget the cross.
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Old 08-19-2008, 01:56 PM
 
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Yes, there are many things that wish to draw our attention away from Christ. Regarding the above statement, I agree that works can be a big thing, because it appeals to our pride. But there is a danger of being so turned off by works and legalism that we idolize "liberty and free living" and forget the cross.
Amen and I agree.

Taking Christ's blood for granted and not striving to live for Him would be a terrible circumstance.

There's a line we must see between freedom and 'free license'.

Right?
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Old 08-19-2008, 02:00 PM
 
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Amen and I agree.

Taking Christ's blood for granted and not striving to live for Him would be a terrible circumstance.

There's a line we must see between freedom and 'free license'.

Right?
THe only line worthy of our attention is the straight and narrow, which one that loves Christ walks. There is no idolaltry in walking like Him. That which Glorifies the Father is never wrong.

If we love Him, we keep His commandments, they are perfect and divine, and there is no shadow of turning or anything negative; such as pride or boasting. There is love, even the pure love of Christ.

godspeed,

freedom
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