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Your "blame game-satan made me do it" argument is a strawman at best.
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I always love the "strawman" comments. And actually this is some of yours, not mine. I take FULL responsibility for MY OWN actions, and need not place the blame on a fable.
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No and your point just doesn't jive, anybody can read and see Jesus is talking to someone. To debate this issue is pointless
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Really? If you had the full deity of God in a human form, could you not turn a rock into bread? Would the thought cross your mind? It says He was HUNGRY! Also the other temptations aren't unlike this. Fullness of God's power "dynamos" resting in a mere human. The temptations He wrestled with wouldn't be unlike any one of us, in that same circumstance. And no, I wasn't there to "see" it.
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Most all people???? maybe in your world and the Discovery Channel, not mine. Job was real and he probably wrote the book of Job
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Probably? Job is dated as the oldest book in the Bible. Some even think it was Adam himself. I look at it as allegory at best, giving us mere humans insights on trials, tribulations, sorrow, loss, happiness, and finally worthiness. Job was the ultimate overcomer, and yet he was BLAMELESS!
No biggie, most Christians equate them as one and the same anyway.
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That's nonsense, nobody blames the devil when we do wrong, satan has bigger fish to fry like holocaust, genocide, fiddling with the world system afterall this is his kingdom.
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Hmm, and mines a "strawman"? First he doesn't meddle with us, or at least takes the blame, but does on a grand scale? You can't have it both ways, either he does or doesn't. Because mankind takes some of man's lusts and desires to new levels, doesn't mean it was the devil doing it.
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We hold ourselves accountable, thru adamic nature. Adam sinned therefore the sin gene was passed down to us. We are born with a sinful nature. We are sinful, wretched creatures and not one of us deserve to go to heaven but because of God's grace and mercy he gives us a way.
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The sin gene? Now that is news. Where is it located? I wonder if it can be mapped?
We don't hold ourselves accountable. God does, and we shall be HELD accountable to Him. Oh, and I don't buy the born sinners junk either. If that was the case, then Jesus wasn't human. And since I know He didn't cheat concerning the Law, because He is perfect, then by simple logic so must children be born perfect. They lose their innocence in this broken world, and fall into temptations and then sin. But prior?
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