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09-15-2008, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Bideshi
The Bible tells us that every believer in Christ is a saint. You don't have to die first.
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Which scripture, please?
So when anyone dies, who believes in Christ, they become a saint? My grandparents...saints? |
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09-15-2008, 02:11 PM
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I Tim1:15-17
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Originally Posted by beeveenh
Which scripture, please?
So when anyone dies, who believes in Christ, they become a saint? My grandparents...saints?
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I believe, but am not certain, that Bideshi is talking about the way Paul opened most of his letters.
We are, if in Christ, saints. We're not characterized by sin, although we do sin.
In other words, it isn't death that makes us a sin, it's life!
Christ's life.
Start reading through the New Testament and look how Paul opens his letters. |
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09-15-2008, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Bideshi
I am a member of the worldwide body of Christ, the Church made up of all believers on Earth. I am a Christian.
Satan must laugh as we divide ourselves into denominations and argue over man made theological issues.
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1. Are you a member of the Worldwide Body of Christ, Yes or No?
Everything I think and I am sorry. |
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09-15-2008, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Alpha8207
I believe, but am not certain, that Bideshi is talking about the way Paul opened most of his letters.
We are, if in Christ, saints. We're not characterized by sin, although we do sin.
In other words, it isn't death that makes us a sin, it's life!
Christ's life.
Start reading through the New Testament and look how Paul opens his letters.
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Yes, I have read the way many of the books in the New Testament begin. It's typically to "Saints" or "Holy Ones". I think that there is a distinction between Holy Ones/Saints and "regular People". |
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09-15-2008, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Alpha8207
I believe, but am not certain, that Bideshi is talking about the way Paul opened most of his letters.
We are, if in Christ, saints. We're not characterized by sin, although we do sin.
In other words, it isn't death that makes us a sin, it's life!
Christ's life.
Start reading through the New Testament and look how Paul opens his letters.
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If one is In Christ, they do not sin. If one sins, they are not in Christ.
godspeed,
freedom |
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09-16-2008, 01:50 AM
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All who have confess that Jesus Has come in the flesh. All who confess with their mouth and believe in their hearts, that Jesus is Lord of all!!! These are all the hopefuls. As to who actually enters? That is yet to be seen. Only God knows. I'm doing my best to make it in. Praying daily that I make it in.
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09-16-2008, 03:06 AM
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humans are funny people
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Originally Posted by Betsey Lane
All who have confess that Jesus Has come in the flesh. All who confess with their mouth and believe in their hearts, that Jesus is Lord of all!!! These are all the hopefuls. As to who actually enters? That is yet to be seen. Only God knows. I'm doing my best to make it in. Praying daily that I make it in.
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Hopefuls? Really? What a way to live - hoping the one who holds you as the apple of His eye is going to account your 'best' as 'good enough' and let you in. 
That's psychological child abuse of the worst order. |
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09-16-2008, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Betsey Lane
All who have confess that Jesus Has come in the flesh. All who confess with their mouth and believe in their hearts, that Jesus is Lord of all!!! These are all the hopefuls. As to who actually enters? That is yet to be seen. Only God knows. I'm doing my best to make it in. Praying daily that I make it in.
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You can trust in Jesus's promises. |
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09-16-2008, 07:43 AM
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But doesn't the bible talk about God forgiving you of your sin? Putting them as far off as east and west? Didn't Jesus tell us how to pray for forgiveness of our sins? Aren't we encouraged to forgive others as freely as God forgives us?
If this is the case, then doesn't that show that God knows we are imperfect? We should strive to reach His standards but as imperfect humans we fall short. He knows we are imperfect.
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09-16-2008, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Bideshi
You can trust in Jesus's promises.
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How Many Sacraments does your Church have Bideshi?
I think and I am sorry.
Do you want to go to Heaven, I think I can help you on that way? |
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