Who Has Got the Possibility of Entering Heaven? (Messiah, scriptures, priest)

[Neil Turan]

I think and Sorry.

For Salvation, Again, there are five points important: So only four sacraments, and not all the seven.

I suppose, there are five points, which I think you can make it to heaven, I have said this one before, again i Say it, 4 sacraments are neccesary for salvation, not seven, but the church itself, must be/have 7 sacraments, that is point one/first of all:

1. First of all, You must be attached to a Church, who is belonging to the Catholicism, Eastern Orthodox or Oriental Orthodox, simply: you must be Catholic or Orthodox
2. Second you must have had the Sacrament of Baptism
3. Third of All you must have had the Sacrament of Confirmation
4. Fourd of All you must have had the Sacrament of Penance
5. Fifth of All you must have had the Sacrament of the Eucharist.

[Neil Turan]

List of churches which I believe you can make it to heaven, and maybe they are not all:

[SIZE=3]1. Catholicism (24):[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]1. Albanian Greek Catholic Church [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2. Armenian Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]3. Belarusian Greek Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]4. Bulgarian Greek Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]5. Byzantine Church of the Eparchy of Krizevci[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]6. Chaldean Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]7. Coptic Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]8. Ethiopian Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]9. Georgian Greek Catholics[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]10. Greek Byzantine Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]11. Hungarian Greek Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]12. Italo Greek Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]13. Macedonian Greek Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]14. Maronite Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]15. Melkite Greek Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]16. Roman Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]17. Romanian Church United with Rome Greek Catholic[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]18. Russian Byzantine Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]19. Ruthenian Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]20. Slovak Greek Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]21. Syriac Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]22. Syro Malabar Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]23. Syro Malankara Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]24. Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]2. Eastern Orthodox (46):[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]1. Albanian Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2. American Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]3. Autonomous Ukrainian Orthodox Church in America[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]4. Belarusian Autocephalous Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]5. Bulgarian Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]6. Chinese Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]7. Church of Greece[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]8. Church of the Genuine Orthodox Christians of Greece[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]9. Croatian Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]10. Cypriot Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]11. Czech and Slovak Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]12. Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]13. Estonian Apostolic Orthodox Church [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]14. Finnish Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]15. Georgian Apostolic and Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]16. Greek Orthodox Church of Alexandria[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]17. Greek Orthodox Church of Antioch[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]18. Greek Orthodox Church of Jerusalem[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]19. Italian Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]20. Japanese Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]21. Karamanli Turkish Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]22. Korean Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]23. Latvian Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]24. Living Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]25. Macedonian Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]26. Moldovan Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]27. Montenegrin Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]28. Orthodox Church in America[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]29. Orthodox Church in Italy[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]30. Orthodox Church of Mount Sinai[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]31. Patriarchal Exarchate for Orthodox Parishes of Russian Tradition in Western Europe[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]32. Philippine Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]33. Polish Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]34. Romanian Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]35. Russian Orthodox Church [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]36. Russian Orthodox Church in America[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]37. Russian Orthodox Church outside Russia[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]38. Russian True Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]39. Serbian Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]40. The Old Calendar Bulgarian Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]41. The Old Calendar Romanian Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]42. Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]43. Ukrainian Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]44. Ukrainian Orthodox Church Kiev Patriarchate[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]45. Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Canada[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]46. Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the USA[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]3. Oriental Orthodox (10):[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]1. Armenian Orthodox and Apostolic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2. British Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]3. Celtic Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]4. Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]5. Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]6. Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]7. French Coptic Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]8. Malankara Jacobite Syriac Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]9. Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]10. Syriac Orthodox Church of Antioch[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]I am the last one of this list, I am from the Syriac Orthodox Church of Antioch, an Oriental Orthodox Church.[/SIZE]

[Neil Turan]

I think and sorry for this days

Definition of the Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria, likewise an Oriental Orthodox Church, so the resemblence with my church is much I think, maybe it is even the same about the seven sacraments, because both churches belong to Oriental Orthodox Group of Christianity, it depends on what you define as Christians, for me, only Catholics and Orthodox are (true) Christians, the Rest is Not Christians, it is the party of the devil and his friends.

About the Baptism:

Definition:

The Baptism is the sacrament in what someone again be born en be come in to the Church, after been three times set under water in the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. This is the first of all sacraments, because it is seen as the door in which the faith(full) or faith one enters the Church and the Kingdom of Mercy as said by our Lord Jesus Christ Himself:

"I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.

John 3

that’s why faithfulls must have had this sacrament before they partake in one of the other sacraments.
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[CelticLady1]

Originally Posted by Neil Turan

Definition of the Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria, likewise an Oriental Orthodox Church, so the resemblence with my church is much I think, maybe it is even the same about the seven sacraments, because both churches belong to Oriental Orthodox Group of Christianity, it depends on what you define as Christians, for me, only Catholics and Orthodox are (true) Christians, the Rest is Not Christians, it is the party of the devil and his friends.

Well, this makes for amusing reading, at any rate.

[mams1559]

If you're asking possibilities, then every single person has the possibility of entering heaven. How? By accepting Christ as their Lord and Saviour and living their lives accordingly.

1 John 5:5 = Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.

1 John 5:12 = He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.

It is that simple, and yet that difficult. Blessings

[cg81]

Originally Posted by Neil Turan

List of churches which I believe you can make it to heaven, and maybe they are not all:

[SIZE=3]1. Catholicism (24):[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]1. Albanian Greek Catholic Church [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2. Armenian Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]3. Belarusian Greek Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]4. Bulgarian Greek Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]5. Byzantine Church of the Eparchy of Krizevci[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]6. Chaldean Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]7. Coptic Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]8. Ethiopian Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]9. Georgian Greek Catholics[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]10. Greek Byzantine Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]11. Hungarian Greek Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]12. Italo Greek Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]13. Macedonian Greek Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]14. Maronite Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]15. Melkite Greek Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]16. Roman Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]17. Romanian Church United with Rome Greek Catholic[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]18. Russian Byzantine Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]19. Ruthenian Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]20. Slovak Greek Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]21. Syriac Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]22. Syro Malabar Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]23. Syro Malankara Catholic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]24. Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]2. Eastern Orthodox (46):[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]1. Albanian Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2. American Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]3. Autonomous Ukrainian Orthodox Church in America[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]4. Belarusian Autocephalous Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]5. Bulgarian Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]6. Chinese Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]7. Church of Greece[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]8. Church of the Genuine Orthodox Christians of Greece[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]9. Croatian Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]10. Cypriot Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]11. Czech and Slovak Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]12. Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]13. Estonian Apostolic Orthodox Church [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]14. Finnish Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]15. Georgian Apostolic and Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]16. Greek Orthodox Church of Alexandria[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]17. Greek Orthodox Church of Antioch[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]18. Greek Orthodox Church of Jerusalem[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]19. Italian Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]20. Japanese Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]21. Karamanli Turkish Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]22. Korean Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]23. Latvian Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]24. Living Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]25. Macedonian Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]26. Moldovan Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]27. Montenegrin Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]28. Orthodox Church in America[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]29. Orthodox Church in Italy[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]30. Orthodox Church of Mount Sinai[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]31. Patriarchal Exarchate for Orthodox Parishes of Russian Tradition in Western Europe[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]32. Philippine Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]33. Polish Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]34. Romanian Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]35. Russian Orthodox Church [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]36. Russian Orthodox Church in America[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]37. Russian Orthodox Church outside Russia[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]38. Russian True Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]39. Serbian Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]40. The Old Calendar Bulgarian Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]41. The Old Calendar Romanian Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]42. Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]43. Ukrainian Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]44. Ukrainian Orthodox Church Kiev Patriarchate[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]45. Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Canada[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]46. Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the USA[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]3. Oriental Orthodox (10):[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]1. Armenian Orthodox and Apostolic Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]2. British Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]3. Celtic Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]4. Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]5. Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]6. Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]7. French Coptic Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]8. Malankara Jacobite Syriac Orthodox Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]9. Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]10. Syriac Orthodox Church of Antioch[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]I am the last one of this list, I am from the Syriac Orthodox Church of Antioch, an Oriental Orthodox Church.[/SIZE]

So as long as I have my membership in one of these churches (I do not) I will enter heaven, no matter what my life and actions are?

[Miss Blue]

Neil, I believe that Jesus,Gods son, was offered up as the perfect sacrifice for our sins and was resurrected in a perfect body and ascended into heaven...

If we believe the above and obey the greatest commandment..We are the church, the bride of Christ, who on that final day will be presented to the Father.

Church is not a building, church is not only a few religious denomonations..We are the church, individually and together..If we believe the above and obey the greatest commandment..

Just my opinion, and I am set in my ways and at peace in my belief

[Miss Martha]

Here is my viewpoint. Absolutely every person in the universe has the chance to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven!

It is all a choice. I do not believe for one moment that any one denomination has more of a chance to get into Heaven than any other denomination. I see no support for this theory in the Bible!

[Neil Turan]

Originally Posted by mams1559

If you're asking possibilities, then every single person has the possibility of entering heaven. How? By accepting Christ as their Lord and Saviour and living their lives accordingly.

1 John 5:5 = Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.

1 John 5:12 = He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.

It is that simple, and yet that difficult. Blessings

My Answer:

Not every person. If you are not of an Eastern Orthodox Church, or Oriental Orthodox church or from a church that belongs to the Catholicism Christian Group, then you can forget it. You cannot make it to heaven. I believe that there will after this life three sort of persons:

1. One that after they die immediatly go to Hell and will stay there forever
2. One that aftet they die immediatly go to Heaven/Paradise and will stay there foreever
3. One that after they die immediatly go to Hell, but, if People, sacrifice, pray for him on earth, they may get to Heaven, at the Last Judgement.

Point one and Point two are very clear I suppose, eithter Heaven or Hell. Point 3 is somewhat Clear, So, suppose, If you are from the Protestantism, but you have done good things in your life, but you didn´t get all the four sacraments, which are neccesary for heaven, but only 2, because I believe that all of the Protestantism has got 2 sacraments, maybe by the prayers, and sacrifices, of ofthers, you still go to heaven on the last day I don´t know that. So if you die, there is still forgiveniss of sins, why?

Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. Matthew 12:30-32

You see, that there is forgiveniss of sin in the age to come. But not all sins are to be forgiven.

This is my opinion.

[Neil Turan]

Originally Posted by cg81

So as long as I have my membership in one of these churches (I do not) I will enter heaven, no matter what my life and actions are?

First of all, You must be a member of the
1. Eastern Orthodox
2. Oriental Orthodox
3. Catholicism.

If you are on of these, then there are four things neccesery for salvation, and that I have posted before:

1. First of all, You must be attached to a Church, who is belonging to the Catholicism, Eastern Orthodox or Oriental Orthodox, simply: you must be Catholic or Orthodox
2. Second you must have had the Sacrament of Baptism
3. Third of All you must have had the Sacrament of Confirmation
4. Fourd of All you must have had the Sacrament of Penance
5. Fifth of All you must have had the Sacrament of the Eucharist.

So know, you must fullfill the Sacraments if you have the right Church, and offcourse, love your neighbour, god, etc.etc. that which come along with the sacraments.